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From: Jan Kara <[email protected]>
To: Stefan Roesch <[email protected]>
Cc: Jan Kara <[email protected]>,
	[email protected], [email protected], [email protected],
	[email protected], [email protected],
	[email protected]
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 15/18] mm: support write throttling for async buffered writes
Date: Wed, 11 May 2022 12:38:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>

On Tue 10-05-22 13:16:30, Stefan Roesch wrote:
> On 5/10/22 2:50 AM, Jan Kara wrote:
> > I know that you're using fields in task_struct to propagate the delay info.
> > But IMHO that is unnecessary (although I don't care too much). Instead we
> > could factor out a variant of balance_dirty_pages() that returns 'pause' to
> > sleep, 0 if no sleeping needed. Normal balance_dirty_pages() would use this
> > for pause calculation, places wanting async throttling would only get the
> > pause to sleep. So e.g. iomap_write_iter() would then check and if returned
> > pause is > 0, it would abort the loop similary as we'd abort it for any
> > other reason when NOWAIT write is aborted because we need to sleep. Iouring
> > code then detects short write / EAGAIN and offloads the write to the
> > workqueue where normal balance_dirty_pages() can sleep as needed.
> > 
> > This will make sure dirty limits are properly observed and we don't need
> > that much special handling for it.
> >
> 
> I like the idea of factoring out a function out balance_dirty_pages(), however
> 
> I see two challenges:
> - the write operation has already completed at this point,
> - so we can't really sleep on its completion in the io-worker in io-uring
> - we don't know how long to sleep in io-uring
> 
> Currently balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited() is called at the end of the
> function iomap_write_iter(). If the function
> balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited() would instead be called at the
> beginning of the function iomap_write_iter() we could return -EAGAIN and
> then complete it in the io-worker.

Well, we call balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited() after each page. So it does
not really matter much if the sleep is pushed to happen one page later.
balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited() does ratelimiting of when
balance_dirty_pages() are called so we have to make sure
current->nr_dirtied is not zeroed out before we really do wait (because
that is what determines whether we enter balance_dirty_pages() and how long
we sleep there) but looking at the code that should work out just fine.

								Honza
-- 
Jan Kara <[email protected]>
SUSE Labs, CR


  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-05-11 10:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-26 17:43 [RFC PATCH v1 00/18] io-uring/xfs: support async buffered writes Stefan Roesch
2022-04-26 17:43 ` [RFC PATCH v1 01/18] block: add check for async buffered writes to generic_write_checks Stefan Roesch
2022-04-26 17:43 ` [RFC PATCH v1 02/18] mm: add FGP_ATOMIC flag to __filemap_get_folio() Stefan Roesch
2022-04-26 19:06   ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-04-28 19:54     ` Stefan Roesch
2022-04-26 17:43 ` [RFC PATCH v1 03/18] iomap: add iomap_page_create_gfp to allocate iomap_pages Stefan Roesch
2022-04-26 17:43 ` [RFC PATCH v1 04/18] iomap: use iomap_page_create_gfp() in __iomap_write_begin Stefan Roesch
2022-04-26 17:43 ` [RFC PATCH v1 05/18] iomap: add async buffered write support Stefan Roesch
2022-04-26 17:43 ` [RFC PATCH v1 06/18] xfs: add iomap " Stefan Roesch
2022-04-26 22:54   ` Dave Chinner
2022-04-28 20:03     ` Stefan Roesch
2022-04-26 17:43 ` [RFC PATCH v1 07/18] fs: split off need_remove_file_privs() do_remove_file_privs() Stefan Roesch
2022-04-26 17:43 ` [RFC PATCH v1 08/18] fs: split off need_file_update_time and do_file_update_time Stefan Roesch
2022-04-26 17:43 ` [RFC PATCH v1 09/18] fs: add pending file update time flag Stefan Roesch
2022-04-26 17:43 ` [RFC PATCH v1 10/18] xfs: Enable async write file modification handling Stefan Roesch
2022-04-26 22:55   ` Dave Chinner
2022-04-27 12:07   ` Christian Brauner
2022-04-26 17:43 ` [RFC PATCH v1 11/18] xfs: add async buffered write support Stefan Roesch
     [not found]   ` <[email protected]>
2022-04-28 19:58     ` Stefan Roesch
2022-04-28 21:54       ` Dave Chinner
     [not found]         ` <[email protected]>
     [not found]           ` <[email protected]>
2022-05-09 19:32             ` Stefan Roesch
2022-04-26 17:43 ` [RFC PATCH v1 12/18] io_uring: add support for async buffered writes Stefan Roesch
2022-04-26 17:43 ` [RFC PATCH v1 13/18] io_uring: add tracepoint for short writes Stefan Roesch
2022-04-26 17:43 ` [RFC PATCH v1 14/18] sched: add new fields to task_struct Stefan Roesch
2022-04-26 17:43 ` [RFC PATCH v1 15/18] mm: support write throttling for async buffered writes Stefan Roesch
2022-04-28 17:47   ` Jan Kara
2022-04-28 20:16     ` Stefan Roesch
     [not found]       ` <[email protected]>
     [not found]         ` <[email protected]>
2022-05-11 10:38           ` Jan Kara [this message]
2022-04-26 17:43 ` [RFC PATCH v1 16/18] iomap: User " Stefan Roesch
2022-04-26 17:43 ` [RFC PATCH v1 17/18] io_uring: support write " Stefan Roesch
2022-04-26 17:43 ` [RFC PATCH v1 18/18] xfs: enable async buffered write support Stefan Roesch

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