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From: Ammar Faizi <[email protected]>
To: Georg Koppen <[email protected]>
Cc: bad-relays <[email protected]>,
	GNU/Weeb Mailing List <[email protected]>,
	Louvian Lyndal <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Your TeaInside relay is failing to relay exit traffic
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2022 21:02:18 +0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>

On 8/31/22 8:37 PM, Georg Koppen wrote:
> Ammar Faizi:
>> On 8/31/22 2:25 PM, Georg Koppen wrote:
>>> In the meantime: could you elaborate on why you have the
>>> DNSPort/TransPort setup and those many SocksPorts configured? That's
>>> pretty unusual for a plan exit node setup and not needed.
>>
>> I run a VPN service that uses the transparent proxy and DNSPort in the
>> same server with the exit node. I also use the SOCKSPort to run my
>> scraper app.
>>
>> Side note: The amount of the traffic from the VPN and SOCKS is fairly
>> small, it shouldn't affect my exit node.
>>
>> Current usage:
>>
>>    - A single small scrapper app (SOCKSPort).
>>
>>      I configure many ports to get many exit IP addresses for
>>      randomizing my identity.
> 
> How is that supposed to work given that you only have one exit IP address
> (68.183.184.174)?

You misunderstood my email.

I use the SOCKSPort for scraping, this gives me random exit IP. It doesn't
use my exit IP for the scraper's outbound traffic. A simple way to use it
is like this (I expose the ports publicly, you can try it too):

```bash

for i in {64500..64599}; do
curl -4 https://ipecho.net/plain --proxy socks5://68.183.184.174:$i; echo;
done;

```

It's slow, but it works.

> And what are you actually scraping?

The current is actively fetching https://lore.kernel.org/io-uring/new.atom
every 30 seconds. I don't see this as a big deal for the Tor network anyway.

> One thing that makes me wonder is that we encounter more and more websites
> that deploy either total bans on Tor users or annoying CAPTCHAs etc. because
> of folks massively scraping their contents and because all simpler scraping
> solutions are already blocked. Are you aware of that issue?
> (FWIW: that is having a big impact on Tor's overall usability).

Yes, I am aware of this issue. I have been bitten by annoying CAPTCHAs, block,
etc. when using Tor network. So I understand.

>>    - TeaVPN2 service (TransPort and DNSPort).
>>
>>      I am writing a VPN software (Linux). It uses the transparent
>>      proxy and DNS port only for accessing "*.onion" host. Only
>>      3 people using it so far, rarely used too.
>>
>> Is it fine doing that?
>>
>> I can deploy a dedicated Tor instance for my VPN and scraper app if
>> it is really needed.
> 
> Well, "needed" might be to strong here but it is certainly encouraged to
> just relay Tor exit traffic with your server as whatever else you are
> running and doing on that box might affect that exit relay which in turn
> might impact (other) Tor users.

Understand, thanks!

-- 
Ammar Faizi

  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-31 14:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-25  6:58 Your TeaInside relay is failing to relay exit traffic Georg Koppen
2022-08-25  7:18 ` Ammar Faizi
2022-08-25  7:33   ` Louvian Lyndal
2022-08-25  7:48     ` Ammar Faizi
2022-08-25  9:27   ` Georg Koppen
2022-08-25 10:13     ` Ammar Faizi
2022-08-30  5:57       ` Ammar Faizi
2022-08-30 11:02         ` Georg Koppen
2022-08-30 11:14           ` Ammar Faizi
2022-08-30 14:12             ` Ammar Faizi
2022-08-31  0:13               ` Ammar Faizi
2022-08-31  6:37               ` Georg Koppen
2022-08-31  6:45                 ` Ammar Faizi
2022-08-31  7:25                   ` Georg Koppen
2022-08-31  7:48                     ` Ammar Faizi
2022-08-31 12:49                       ` Ammar Faizi
2022-08-31 13:25                         ` Georg Koppen
2022-08-31 13:37                       ` Georg Koppen
2022-08-31 14:02                         ` Ammar Faizi [this message]
2022-08-31 14:07                           ` Ammar Faizi
2022-08-31 14:32                             ` Louvian Lyndal
2022-08-31 14:46                               ` Georg Koppen
2022-08-31 14:58                                 ` Ammar Faizi

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