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From: Ammar Faizi <[email protected]>
To: Willy Tarreau <[email protected]>
Cc: "Thomas Weißschuh" <[email protected]>,
	"Nicholas Rosenberg" <[email protected]>,
	"Alviro Iskandar Setiawan" <[email protected]>,
	"Michael William Jonathan" <[email protected]>,
	"GNU/Weeb Mailing List" <[email protected]>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 3/5] tools/nolibc: x86-64: Use `rep cmpsb` for `memcmp()`
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2023 14:27:28 +0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>

On Fri, Sep 01, 2023 at 05:35:08AM +0200, Willy Tarreau wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 01, 2023 at 10:24:42AM +0700, Ammar Faizi wrote:
> > After thinking about this more, I think I'll drop the memcmp() patch
> > because it will prevent optimization when comparing a small value.
> > 
> > For example, without __asm__:
> > 
> >     memcmp(var, "abcd", 4);
> > 
> > may compile to:
> > 
> >     cmpl $0x64636261, %reg
> >     ...something...
> > 
> > But with __asm__, the compiler can't do that. Thus, it's not worth
> > optimizing the memcmp() in this case.
> 
> Ah you're totally right!

So, it turns out that such assumption is wrong. The compiler cannot
optimize the current memcmp() into that. I just posted a question on SO:

   https://stackoverflow.com/questions/77020562/what-prevents-the-compiler-from-optimizing-a-hand-written-memcmp

Given:
```
  bool test_data(void *data)
  {
          return memcmp(data, "abcd", 4) == 0;
  }
```

The result when using default the <string.h> memcmp (good):
```
  test_data:
      cmpl    $1684234849, (%rdi)
      sete    %al
      ret
```

The result when using nolibc memcmp() (bad):
```
  test_data:
      cmpb    $97, (%rdi)
      jne     .L5
      cmpb    $98, 1(%rdi)
      jne     .L5
      cmpb    $99, 2(%rdi)
      jne     .L5
      cmpb    $100, 3(%rdi)
      sete    %al
      ret
  .L5:
      xorl    %eax, %eax
      ret
```

Link: https://godbolt.org/z/TT94r3bvf

This is because apart from the input length, the current nolibc
`memcmp()` must stop comparing the next byte if it finds a non-match
byte. Imagine what happens if we call:

```
  char xstr[] = {'a', 'b', 'x'};
  test_data(x);
```

In that case, the compiler may read past xstr if it uses a dword cmp, it
can also lead to segfault in particular circumstances using a dword cmp.

What the current nolibc memcmp() does from the C language view:

  1) Compare one byte at a time.
  2) Must stop comparing the next byte if it finds a non-match byte.

Because point (2) comes in, the compiler is not allowed to optimize
nolibc memcmp() into a wider load; otherwise, it may hit a segfault.
That also means it cannot vectorize the memcmp() loop.

On the other hand, memcpy() and memset() don't have such a restriction
so they can vectorize.

The real memcmp() assumes that both sources are at least `n` length in
size, allowing for a wider load. The current nolibc memcmp()
implementation doesn't reflect that assumption in the C code.

IOW, the real built-in memcmp() is undefined behavior for this code:
```
    char x = 'q';
    return memcmp(&x, "abcd", 4);
```
but the current nolibc memcmp() is well-defined behavior (well, must be,
as what the C code reflects).

We can improve nolibc memcmp() by casting the sources to a wider type
like (ulong, uint, ushort). But that's another story for another RFC
patchset.

-- 
Ammar Faizi


  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-01  7:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-30 13:57 [RFC PATCH v1 0/5] nolibc x86-64 string functions Ammar Faizi
2023-08-30 13:57 ` [RFC PATCH v1 1/5] tools/nolibc: x86-64: Use `rep movsb` for `memcpy()` and `memmove()` Ammar Faizi
2023-08-30 13:57 ` [RFC PATCH v1 2/5] tools/nolibc: x86-64: Use `rep stosb` for `memset()` Ammar Faizi
2023-08-30 14:08   ` Alviro Iskandar Setiawan
2023-08-30 14:13     ` Ammar Faizi
2023-08-30 14:24   ` Alviro Iskandar Setiawan
2023-08-30 15:09     ` Ammar Faizi
2023-08-30 15:23       ` Willy Tarreau
2023-08-30 15:44         ` Ammar Faizi
2023-08-30 15:51           ` Willy Tarreau
2023-08-30 16:08             ` Ammar Faizi
2023-08-30 16:11               ` Alviro Iskandar Setiawan
2023-08-30 13:57 ` [RFC PATCH v1 3/5] tools/nolibc: x86-64: Use `rep cmpsb` for `memcmp()` Ammar Faizi
2023-08-30 21:26   ` Willy Tarreau
2023-09-01  3:24     ` Ammar Faizi
2023-09-01  3:35       ` Willy Tarreau
2023-09-01  7:27         ` Ammar Faizi [this message]
2023-09-04  8:26     ` David Laight
2023-08-30 13:57 ` [RFC PATCH v1 4/5] tools/nolibc: string: Remove the `_nolibc_memcpy_down()` function Ammar Faizi
2023-08-30 21:27   ` Willy Tarreau
2023-08-30 13:57 ` [RFC PATCH v1 5/5] tools/nolibc: string: Remove the `_nolibc_memcpy_up()` function Ammar Faizi
2023-08-30 21:32 ` [RFC PATCH v1 0/5] nolibc x86-64 string functions Willy Tarreau
2023-09-01 11:34 ` David Laight
2023-09-01 11:46   ` Willy Tarreau
2023-09-01 13:06     ` Ammar Faizi
2023-09-01 14:23       ` David Laight
2023-09-01 14:41         ` Ammar Faizi
2023-09-01 14:54           ` David Laight
2023-09-01 15:20             ` Ammar Faizi

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