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From: John Johansen <[email protected]>
To: Matthew Wilcox <[email protected]>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <[email protected]>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <[email protected]>,
	Ammar Faizi <[email protected]>,
	James Morris <[email protected]>,
	LSM List <[email protected]>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <[email protected]>,
	Al Viro <[email protected]>,
	Kees Cook <[email protected]>,
	[email protected], Linux-MM <[email protected]>,
	[email protected]
Subject: Re: Linux 5.18-rc4
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2022 13:27:33 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>

On 6/13/22 15:48, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 06, 2022 at 02:00:33PM -0700, John Johansen wrote:
>> On 6/6/22 13:23, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jun 06, 2022 at 12:19:36PM -0700, John Johansen wrote:
>>>>> I suspect that part is that both Apparmor and IPC use the idr local lock.
>>>>>
>>>> bingo,
>>>>
>>>> apparmor moved its secids allocation from a custom radix tree to idr in
>>>>
>>>>   99cc45e48678 apparmor: Use an IDR to allocate apparmor secids
>>>>
>>>> and ipc is using the idr for its id allocation as well
>>>>
>>>> I can easily lift the secid() allocation out of the ctx->lock but that
>>>> would still leave it happening under the file_lock and not fix the problem.
>>>> I think the quick solution would be for apparmor to stop using idr, reverting
>>>> back at least temporarily to the custom radix tree.
>>>
>>> How about moving forward to the XArray that doesn't use that horrid
>>> prealloc gunk?  Compile tested only.
>>>
>>
>> I'm not very familiar with XArray but it does seem like a good fit. We do try
>> to keep the secid allocation dense, ideally no holes. Wrt the current locking
>> issue I want to hear what Thomas has to say. Regardless I am looking into
>> whether we should just switch to XArrays going forward.
> 
> Nothing from Thomas ... shall we just go with this?  Do you want a
> commit message, etc for the patch?

Hey Matthew,

I have done testing with this and the patch looks good. We will certainly
go this route going forward so a commit message, would be good. As for
fixing the issue in current kernels. I am not opposed to pulling this
back as fixes for

  99cc45e48678 apparmor: Use an IDR to allocate apparmor secids

but I would like some other peoples opinions on doing that, because we
don't understand why we are getting the current lock splat, and without
understanding it is a fix by avoiding the issue rather than being sure
the actual issue is fixed.


  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-21 20:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CAHk-=whmtHMzjaVUF9bS+7vE_rrRctcCTvsAeB8fuLYcyYLN-g@mail.gmail.com>
2022-04-27 17:59 ` Linux 5.18-rc4 Ammar Faizi
2022-04-27 18:31   ` Linus Torvalds
2022-06-06 15:19     ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-06-06 18:28       ` Linus Torvalds
2022-06-06 19:19         ` John Johansen
2022-06-06 19:47           ` Linus Torvalds
2022-06-06 20:23           ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-06-06 21:00             ` John Johansen
2022-06-13 22:48               ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-06-21 20:27                 ` John Johansen [this message]
2022-07-13  9:37                   ` Ammar Faizi

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