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Tue, 04 Mar 2025 16:13:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.8.100] ([185.69.144.147]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ffacd0b85a97d-390e4844514sm19181494f8f.76.2025.03.04.16.13.09 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 04 Mar 2025 16:13:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <0113b102-2bc9-4f0a-817b-54a6f2fe0a3c@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2025 00:14:19 +0000 Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: io-uring@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/1] iomap: propagate nowait to block layer To: Christoph Hellwig , Jens Axboe Cc: Christian Brauner , linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Dave Chinner , io-uring@vger.kernel.org, "Darrick J . Wong" , linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, wu lei References: <83af597f-e599-41d2-a17b-273d6d877dad@gmail.com> <1e7bbcdf-f677-43e4-b888-7a4614515c62@kernel.dk> <876fa989-ee26-41b3-9cd4-2663343d21f7@kernel.dk> Content-Language: en-US From: Pavel Begunkov In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 3/4/25 23:49, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 04:43:29PM -0700, Jens Axboe wrote: >> On 3/4/25 4:26 PM, Christoph Hellwig wrote: >>> On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 10:36:16AM -0700, Jens Axboe wrote: >>>> stable and actual production certainly do. Not that this should drive >>>> upstream development in any way, it's entirely unrelated to the problem >>>> at hand. >>> >>> And that's exactly what I'm saying. Do the right thing instead of >>> whining about backports to old kernels. >> >> Yep we agree on that, that's obvious. What I'm objecting to is your >> delivery, which was personal rather than factual, which you should imho >> apologize for. > > I thus sincerly apologize for flaming Pavel for whining about Again, pretty interesting choice of words, because it was more akin to a tantrum. I hope you don't think you'd be taken seriously after that, I can't, and not only from this conversation. > backporting, but I'd still prefer he would have taken up that proposal > on technical grounds as I see absolutely no alternatively to > synchronously returning an error. The "You have to do X" hardly reveals any details to claim "technical grounds". Take stable out of the question, and I would still think that a simple understandable fix for upstream is better than jumping to a major rework right away. >> And honestly pretty tiring that this needs to be said, still. Really. > > An I'm really tired of folks whining about backporting instead of > staying ontopic. -- Pavel Begunkov