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From: Pavel Begunkov <[email protected]>
To: Paul Moore <[email protected]>, Jens Axboe <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected], [email protected],
	[email protected], [email protected],
	[email protected],
	Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi <[email protected]>,
	Alexander Viro <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/9] audit,io_uring,io-wq: add some basic audit support to io_uring
Date: Wed, 26 May 2021 11:19:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHC9VhTYBsh4JHhqV0Uyz=H5cEYQw48xOo=CUdXV0gDvyifPOQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 5/26/21 3:04 AM, Paul Moore wrote:
> On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 9:11 PM Jens Axboe <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 5/24/21 1:59 PM, Paul Moore wrote:
>>> That said, audit is not for everyone, and we have build time and
>>> runtime options to help make life easier.  Beyond simply disabling
>>> audit at compile time a number of Linux distributions effectively
>>> shortcut audit at runtime by adding a "never" rule to the audit
>>> filter, for example:
>>>
>>>  % auditctl -a task,never
>>
>> As has been brought up, the issue we're facing is that distros have
>> CONFIG_AUDIT=y and hence the above is the best real world case outside
>> of people doing custom kernels. My question would then be how much
>> overhead the above will add, considering it's an entry/exit call per op.
>> If auditctl is turned off, what is the expectation in turns of overhead?
> 
> I commented on that case in my last email to Pavel, but I'll try to go
> over it again in a little more detail.
> 
> As we discussed earlier in this thread, we can skip the req->opcode
> check before both the _entry and _exit calls, so we are left with just
> the bare audit calls in the io_uring code.  As the _entry and _exit
> functions are small, I've copied them and their supporting functions
> below and I'll try to explain what would happen in CONFIG_AUDIT=y,
> "task,never" case.
> 
> +  static inline struct audit_context *audit_context(void)
> +  {
> +    return current->audit_context;
> +  }
> 
> +  static inline bool audit_dummy_context(void)
> +  {
> +    void *p = audit_context();
> +    return !p || *(int *)p;
> +  }
> 
> +  static inline void audit_uring_entry(u8 op)
> +  {
> +    if (unlikely(audit_enabled && audit_context()))
> +      __audit_uring_entry(op);
> +  }

I'd rather agree that it's my cycle-picking. The case I care about
is CONFIG_AUDIT=y (because everybody enable it), and io_uring
tracing _not_ enabled at runtime. If enabled let them suffer
the overhead, it will probably dip down the performance

So, for the case I care about it's two of

if (unlikely(audit_enabled && current->audit_context))

in the hot path. load-test-jump + current, so it will
be around 7x2 instructions. We can throw away audit_enabled
as you say systemd already enables it, that will give
4x2 instructions including 2 conditional jumps.

That's not great at all. And that's why I brought up
the question about need of pre and post hooks and whether
can be combined. Would be just 4 instructions and that is
ok (ish).

> We would need to check with the current security requirements (there
> are distro people on the linux-audit list that keep track of that
> stuff), but looking at the opcodes right now my gut feeling is that
> most of the opcodes would be considered "security relevant" so
> selective auditing might not be that useful in practice.  It would
> definitely clutter the code and increase the chances that new opcodes
> would not be properly audited when they are merged.

I'm curious, why it's enabled by many distros by default? Are there
use cases they use? Tempting to add AUDIT_IOURING=default N, but
won't work I guess

-- 
Pavel Begunkov

  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-26 10:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-21 21:49 [RFC PATCH 0/9] Add LSM access controls and auditing to io_uring Paul Moore
2021-05-21 21:49 ` [RFC PATCH 1/9] audit: prepare audit_context for use in calling contexts beyond syscalls Paul Moore
2021-05-21 21:49 ` [RFC PATCH 2/9] audit,io_uring,io-wq: add some basic audit support to io_uring Paul Moore
2021-05-22  0:22   ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-05-22  2:36     ` Paul Moore
2021-05-23 20:26       ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-05-24 19:59         ` Paul Moore
2021-05-25  8:27           ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-05-25 14:53             ` Paul Moore
2021-05-26  1:11           ` Jens Axboe
2021-05-26  2:04             ` Paul Moore
2021-05-26 10:19               ` Pavel Begunkov [this message]
2021-05-26 14:38                 ` Paul Moore
2021-05-26 15:11                   ` Steve Grubb
2021-05-26 15:17                   ` Stefan Metzmacher
2021-05-26 15:49                     ` Richard Guy Briggs
2021-05-26 17:22                       ` Jens Axboe
2021-05-27 17:27                         ` Richard Guy Briggs
2021-05-26 15:49                     ` Victor Stewart
2021-05-26 16:38                       ` Casey Schaufler
2021-05-26 17:15               ` Jens Axboe
2021-05-26 17:31                 ` Jens Axboe
2021-05-26 17:54                   ` Jens Axboe
2021-05-26 18:01                     ` Jens Axboe
2021-05-26 18:44                       ` Paul Moore
2021-05-26 18:57                         ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-05-26 19:10                           ` Paul Moore
2021-05-26 19:44                         ` Jens Axboe
2021-05-26 20:19                           ` Paul Moore
2021-05-28 16:02                             ` Paul Moore
2021-06-02  8:26                               ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-06-02 15:46                                 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2021-06-03 10:39                                   ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-06-02 19:46                                 ` Paul Moore
2021-06-03 10:51                                   ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-06-03 15:54                                     ` Casey Schaufler
2021-06-03 15:54                               ` Jens Axboe
2021-06-04  5:04                                 ` Paul Moore
2021-05-26 18:38                     ` Paul Moore
2021-06-02 17:29   ` [RFC PATCH 2/9] audit, io_uring, io-wq: " Richard Guy Briggs
2021-06-02 20:46     ` Paul Moore
2021-08-25  1:21       ` Richard Guy Briggs
2021-08-25 19:41         ` Paul Moore
2021-05-21 21:50 ` [RFC PATCH 3/9] audit: dev/test patch to force io_uring auditing Paul Moore
2021-05-21 21:50 ` [RFC PATCH 4/9] audit: add filtering for io_uring records Paul Moore
2021-05-28 22:35   ` Richard Guy Briggs
2021-05-30 15:26     ` Paul Moore
2021-05-31 13:44       ` Richard Guy Briggs
2021-06-02  1:40         ` Paul Moore
2021-06-02 15:37           ` Richard Guy Briggs
2021-06-02 17:20             ` Paul Moore
2021-05-31 13:44       ` [PATCH 1/2] audit: add filtering for io_uring records, addendum Richard Guy Briggs
2021-05-31 16:08         ` kernel test robot
2021-05-31 17:38         ` kernel test robot
2021-06-07 23:15         ` Paul Moore
2021-06-08 12:55           ` Richard Guy Briggs
2021-06-09  2:45             ` Paul Moore
2021-05-31 13:44       ` [PATCH 2/2] audit: block PERM fields being used with io_uring filtering Richard Guy Briggs
2021-05-21 21:50 ` [RFC PATCH 5/9] fs: add anon_inode_getfile_secure() similar to anon_inode_getfd_secure() Paul Moore
2021-05-21 21:50 ` [RFC PATCH 6/9] io_uring: convert io_uring to the secure anon inode interface Paul Moore
2021-05-21 21:50 ` [RFC PATCH 7/9] lsm,io_uring: add LSM hooks to io_uring Paul Moore
2021-05-26 14:48   ` Stefan Metzmacher
2021-05-26 20:45     ` Paul Moore
2021-05-21 21:50 ` [RFC PATCH 8/9] selinux: add support for the io_uring access controls Paul Moore
2021-05-21 21:50 ` [RFC PATCH 9/9] Smack: Brutalist io_uring support with debug Paul Moore
2021-05-22  0:53 ` [RFC PATCH 0/9] Add LSM access controls and auditing to io_uring Tetsuo Handa
2021-05-22  2:06   ` Paul Moore
2021-05-26 15:00 ` Jeff Moyer
2021-05-26 18:49   ` Paul Moore
2021-05-26 19:07     ` Jeff Moyer
2021-05-26 19:10       ` Paul Moore

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