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From: Jens Axboe <[email protected]>
To: Kanchan Joshi <[email protected]>
Cc: Ming Lei <[email protected]>,
	[email protected], [email protected]
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] bio: add allocation cache abstraction
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 09:58:08 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+1E3r+otujBbY8E49QL_MmxA_bGRTaivFbOkCvNvZEr93q=7g@mail.gmail.com>

On 8/10/21 9:54 AM, Kanchan Joshi wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 8:18 PM Jens Axboe <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> On 8/10/21 7:53 AM, Jens Axboe wrote:
>>> On 8/10/21 7:15 AM, Ming Lei wrote:
>>>> Hi Jens,
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 09, 2021 at 03:23:58PM -0600, Jens Axboe wrote:
>>>>> Add a set of helpers that can encapsulate bio allocations, reusing them
>>>>> as needed. Caller must provide the necessary locking, if any is needed.
>>>>> The primary intended use case is polled IO from io_uring, which will not
>>>>> need any external locking.
>>>>>
>>>>> Very simple - keeps a count of bio's in the cache, and maintains a max
>>>>> of 512 with a slack of 64. If we get above max + slack, we drop slack
>>>>> number of bio's.
>>>>>
>>>>> The cache is intended to be per-task, and the user will need to supply
>>>>> the storage for it. As io_uring will be the only user right now, provide
>>>>> a hook that returns the cache there. Stub it out as NULL initially.
>>>>
>>>> Is it possible for user space to submit & poll IO from different io_uring
>>>> tasks?
>>>>
>>>> Then one bio may be allocated from bio cache of the submission task, and
>>>> freed to cache of the poll task?
>>>
>>> Yes that is possible, and yes that would not benefit from this cache
>>> at all. The previous version would work just fine with that, as the
>>> cache is just under the ring lock and hence you can share it between
>>> tasks.
>>>
>>> I wonder if the niftier solution here is to retain the cache in the
>>> ring still, yet have the pointer be per-task. So basically the setup
>>> that this version does, except we store the cache itself in the ring.
>>> I'll give that a whirl, should be a minor change, and it'll work per
>>> ring instead then like before.
>>
>> That won't work, as we'd have to do a ctx lookup (which would defeat the
>> purpose), and we don't even have anything to key off of at that point...
>>
>> The current approach seems like the only viable one, or adding a member
>> to kiocb so we can pass in the cache in question. The latter did work
>> just fine, but I really dislike the fact that it's growing the kiocb to
>> more than a cacheline.
>>
> Still under a cacheline seems. kiocb took 48 bytes, and adding a
> bio-cache pointer made it 56.

Huh yes, I think I'm mixing up the fact that we embed kiocb and it takes
req->rw over a cacheline, but I did put a fix on top for that one.

I guess we can ignore that then and just shove it in the kiocb, at the
end.

-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-10 15:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-09 21:23 [PATCHSET 0/4] Enable bio recycling for polled IO Jens Axboe
2021-08-09 21:23 ` [PATCH 1/4] bio: add allocation cache abstraction Jens Axboe
2021-08-10 13:15   ` Ming Lei
2021-08-10 13:53     ` Jens Axboe
2021-08-10 14:24       ` Jens Axboe
2021-08-10 14:48         ` Jens Axboe
2021-08-10 15:35           ` Jens Axboe
2021-08-10 15:54         ` Kanchan Joshi
2021-08-10 15:58           ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2021-08-09 21:23 ` [PATCH 2/4] fs: add bio alloc cache kiocb flag Jens Axboe
2021-08-09 21:24 ` [PATCH 3/4] io_uring: wire up bio allocation cache Jens Axboe
2021-08-10 12:25   ` Kanchan Joshi
2021-08-10 13:50     ` Jens Axboe
2021-08-09 21:24 ` [PATCH 4/4] block: enable use of " Jens Axboe
2021-08-10 12:39   ` Kanchan Joshi
2021-08-10 13:56     ` Jens Axboe

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