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From: Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>
To: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
Cc: io-uring@vger.kernel.org, axboe@kernel.dk,
	Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@linux.dev>,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org,
	Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 10/10] selftests/io_uring: add bpf io_uring selftests
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2025 16:12:25 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1994a586-233a-44cd-813d-b95137c037f0@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aR5xxLu-3Ylrl2os@fedora>

On 11/20/25 01:41, Ming Lei wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 19, 2025 at 07:00:41PM +0000, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
>> On 11/14/25 13:08, Ming Lei wrote:
>>> On Thu, Nov 13, 2025 at 11:59:47AM +0000, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
>> ...
>>>> +	bpf_printk("queue nop request, data %lu\n", (unsigned long)reqs_to_run);
>>>> +	sqe = &sqes[sq_hdr->tail & (SQ_ENTRIES - 1)];
>>>> +	sqe->user_data = reqs_to_run;
>>>> +	sq_hdr->tail++;
>>>
>>> Looks this way turns io_uring_enter() into pthread-unsafe, does it need to
>>> be documented?
>>
>> Assuming you mean parallel io_uring_enter() calls modifying the SQ,
>> it's not different from how it currently is. If you're sharing an
>> io_uring, threads need to sync the use of SQ/CQ.
> 
> Please see the example:
> 
> thread_fn(struct io_uring *ring)
> {
> 	while (true) {
> 		pthread_mutex_lock(sqe_mutex);
> 		sqe = io_uring_get_sqe(ring);
> 		io_uring_prep_op(sqe);
> 		pthread_mutex_unlock(sqe_mutex);
> 
> 		io_uring_enter(ring);
> 
> 		pthread_mutex_lock(cqe_mutex);
> 		io_uring_wait_cqe(ring, &cqe);
> 		io_uring_cqe_seen(ring, cqe);
> 		pthread_mutex_unlock(cqe_mutex);
> 	}
> }
> 
> `thread_fn` is supposed to work concurrently from >1 pthreads:
> 
> 1) io_uring_enter() is claimed as pthread safe
> 
> 2) because of userspace lock protection, there is single code path for
> producing sqe for SQ at same time, and single code path for consuming sqe
> from io_uring_enter().
> 
> With bpf controlled io_uring patches, sqe can be produced from io_uring_enter(),
> and cqe can be consumed in io_uring_enter() too, there will be race between
> bpf prog(producing sqe, or consuming cqe) and userspace lock-protected
> code block.

BPF is attached by the same process/user that creates io_uring. The
guarantees are same as before, the user code (which includes BPF)
should protect from concurrent mutations.

In this example, just extend the first critical section to
io_uring_enter(). Concurrent io_uring_enter() will be serialised
by a mutex anyway. But let me note, that sharing rings is not
a great pattern in either case.

-- 
Pavel Begunkov


  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-21 16:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-13 11:59 [PATCH v3 00/10] BPF controlled io_uring Pavel Begunkov
2025-11-13 11:59 ` [PATCH v3 01/10] io_uring: rename the wait queue entry field Pavel Begunkov
2025-11-13 11:59 ` [PATCH v3 02/10] io_uring: simplify io_cqring_wait_schedule results Pavel Begunkov
2025-11-13 11:59 ` [PATCH v3 03/10] io_uring: export __io_run_local_work Pavel Begunkov
2025-11-13 11:59 ` [PATCH v3 04/10] io_uring: extract waiting parameters into a struct Pavel Begunkov
2025-11-13 11:59 ` [PATCH v3 05/10] io_uring/bpf: add stubs for bpf struct_ops Pavel Begunkov
2025-11-13 11:59 ` [PATCH v3 06/10] io_uring/bpf: add handle events callback Pavel Begunkov
2025-11-13 11:59 ` [PATCH v3 07/10] io_uring/bpf: implement struct_ops registration Pavel Begunkov
2025-11-24  3:44   ` Ming Lei
2025-11-24 13:12     ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-11-24 14:29       ` Ming Lei
2025-11-25 12:46         ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-11-13 11:59 ` [PATCH v3 08/10] io_uring/bpf: add basic kfunc helpers Pavel Begunkov
2025-11-13 11:59 ` [PATCH v3 09/10] selftests/io_uring: update mini liburing Pavel Begunkov
2025-11-13 11:59 ` [PATCH v3 10/10] selftests/io_uring: add bpf io_uring selftests Pavel Begunkov
2025-11-14 13:08   ` Ming Lei
2025-11-19 19:00     ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-11-20  1:41       ` Ming Lei
2025-11-21 16:12         ` Pavel Begunkov [this message]
2025-11-22  0:19           ` Ming Lei
2025-11-24 11:57             ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-11-24 13:28               ` Ming Lei

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