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From: Jeremy Allison <[email protected]>
To: Jens Axboe <[email protected]>
Cc: Pavel Begunkov <[email protected]>,
	Stefan Metzmacher <[email protected]>,
	io-uring <[email protected]>,
	Samba Technical <[email protected]>,
	[email protected]
Subject: Re: Data Corruption bug with Samba's vfs_iouring and Linux 5.6.7/5.7rc3
Date: Thu, 7 May 2020 09:48:02 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200507164802.GB25085@jeremy-acer> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>

On Thu, May 07, 2020 at 10:43:17AM -0600, Jens Axboe wrote:
> 
> Replying here, as I missed the storm yesterday... The reason why it's
> different is that later kernels no longer attempt to prevent the short
> reads. They happen when you get overlapping buffered IO. Then one sqe
> will find that X of the Y range is already in cache, and return that.
> We don't retry the latter blocking. We previously did, but there was
> a few issues with it:
> 
> - You're redoing the whole IO, which means more copying
> 
> - It's not safe to retry, it'll depend on the file type. For socket,
>   pipe, etc we obviously cannot. This is the real reason it got disabled,
>   as it was broken there.
> 
> Just like for regular system calls, applications must be able to deal
> with short IO.

Thanks, that's a helpful definitive reply. Of course, the SMB3
protocol is designed to deal with short IO replies as well, and
the Samba and linux kernel clients are well-enough written that
they do so. MacOS and Windows however..

Unfortunately they're the most popular clients on the planet,
so we'll probably have to fix Samba to never return short IOs.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-07 16:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-05 10:04 Data Corruption bug with Samba's vfs_iouring and Linux 5.6.7/5.7rc3 Stefan Metzmacher
2020-05-05 14:41 ` Jens Axboe
2020-05-05 15:44   ` Jens Axboe
2020-05-05 16:53     ` Jens Axboe
2020-05-05 17:39       ` Jens Axboe
2020-05-05 17:48         ` Jeremy Allison
2020-05-05 17:50           ` Jens Axboe
     [not found]           ` <[email protected]>
2020-05-06 10:33             ` Stefan Metzmacher
2020-05-06 10:41               ` Stefan Metzmacher
     [not found]               ` <[email protected]>
2020-05-06 14:08                 ` Stefan Metzmacher
2020-05-06 14:43                   ` Andreas Schneider
2020-05-06 14:46                   ` Andreas Schneider
2020-05-06 15:06                     ` Stefan Metzmacher
2020-05-06 17:03                   ` Jeremy Allison
2020-05-06 17:13                     ` Jeremy Allison
2020-05-06 18:01                     ` Jeremy Allison
2020-05-05 20:19       ` Stefan Metzmacher
2020-05-06 12:55         ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-05-06 15:20           ` Stefan Metzmacher
2020-05-06 15:42             ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-05-07 16:43               ` Jens Axboe
2020-05-07 16:48                 ` Jeremy Allison [this message]
2020-05-07 16:50                   ` Jens Axboe
2020-05-07 18:31                     ` Jeremy Allison
2020-05-07 18:35                       ` Jens Axboe
2020-05-07 18:55                         ` Jeremy Allison
2020-05-07 18:58                           ` Jens Axboe

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