From: Al Viro <[email protected]>
To: Arnd Bergmann <[email protected]>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <[email protected]>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/9] kernel: add a PF_FORCE_COMPAT flag
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 16:02:43 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK8P3a3QApj3isPu3TkLahArsfb5jaABb7DJ7EKMxey1T1YPbA@mail.gmail.com>
On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 03:55:47PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 12:09 AM Al Viro <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 05:16:15PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > > On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 02:58:22PM +0100, Al Viro wrote:
> > > > Said that, why not provide a variant that would take an explicit
> > > > "is it compat" argument and use it there? And have the normal
> > > > one pass in_compat_syscall() to that...
> > >
> > > That would help to not introduce a regression with this series yes.
> > > But it wouldn't fix existing bugs when io_uring is used to access
> > > read or write methods that use in_compat_syscall(). One example that
> > > I recently ran into is drivers/scsi/sg.c.
> >
> > So screw such read/write methods - don't use them with io_uring.
> > That, BTW, is one of the reasons I'm sceptical about burying the
> > decisions deep into the callchain - we don't _want_ different
> > data layouts on read/write depending upon the 32bit vs. 64bit
> > caller, let alone the pointer-chasing garbage that is /dev/sg.
>
> Would it be too late to limit what kind of file descriptors we allow
> io_uring to read/write on?
>
> If io_uring can get changed to return -EINVAL on trying to
> read/write something other than S_IFREG file descriptors,
> that particular problem space gets a lot simpler, but this
> is of course only possible if nobody actually relies on it yet.
S_IFREG is almost certainly too heavy as a restriction. Looking through
the stuff sensitive to 32bit/64bit, we seem to have
* /dev/sg - pointer-chasing horror
* sysfs files for efivar - different layouts for compat and native,
shitty userland ABI design (
struct efi_variable {
efi_char16_t VariableName[EFI_VAR_NAME_LEN/sizeof(efi_char16_t)];
efi_guid_t VendorGuid;
unsigned long DataSize;
__u8 Data[1024];
efi_status_t Status;
__u32 Attributes;
} __attribute__((packed));
) is the piece of crap in question; 'DataSize' is where the headache comes
from. Regular files, BTW...
* uhid - character device, milder pointer-chasing horror. Trouble
comes from this:
/* Obsolete! Use UHID_CREATE2. */
struct uhid_create_req {
__u8 name[128];
__u8 phys[64];
__u8 uniq[64];
__u8 __user *rd_data;
__u16 rd_size;
__u16 bus;
__u32 vendor;
__u32 product;
__u32 version;
__u32 country;
} __attribute__((__packed__));
and suggested replacement doesn't do any pointer-chasing (rd_data is an
embedded array in the end of struct uhid_create2_req).
* evdev, uinput - bitness-sensitive layout, due to timestamps
* /proc/bus/input/devices - weird crap with printing bitmap, different
_text_ layouts seen by 32bit and 64bit readers. Binary structures are PITA,
but with sufficient effort you can screw the text just as hard... Oh, and it's
a regular file.
* similar in sysfs analogue
And AFAICS, that's it for read/write-related method instances.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-09-20 15:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-09-18 12:45 let import_iovec deal with compat_iovecs as well Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18 12:45 ` [PATCH 1/9] kernel: add a PF_FORCE_COMPAT flag Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18 13:40 ` Al Viro
2020-09-18 13:44 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18 13:58 ` Al Viro
2020-09-18 15:16 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-19 16:21 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-19 21:16 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-19 21:52 ` Finn Thain
2020-09-19 22:22 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-21 16:10 ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-09-21 16:13 ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-09-21 23:51 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-22 0:22 ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-09-22 0:58 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-22 6:30 ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-09-22 7:23 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-22 7:57 ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-09-22 9:01 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-22 16:20 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-23 8:01 ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-09-23 13:22 ` Al Viro
2020-09-19 22:09 ` Al Viro
2020-09-19 22:23 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-19 22:41 ` Al Viro
2020-09-19 22:53 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-19 23:24 ` Al Viro
2020-09-20 0:14 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-20 2:57 ` Al Viro
2020-09-20 16:59 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-20 18:12 ` Al Viro
2020-09-20 13:55 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-20 15:02 ` Al Viro [this message]
2020-09-19 14:53 ` David Laight
2020-09-18 13:59 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-20 15:15 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-20 15:55 ` William Kucharski
2020-09-21 16:20 ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-09-20 16:00 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-20 18:07 ` Al Viro
2020-09-20 18:41 ` Al Viro
2020-09-20 19:01 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-20 19:10 ` Al Viro
2020-09-20 19:22 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-20 19:28 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-20 20:49 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-20 21:13 ` David Laight
2020-09-21 16:31 ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-09-20 21:42 ` Al Viro
2020-09-21 16:26 ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-09-20 19:14 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-21 4:28 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18 12:45 ` [PATCH 2/9] compat.h: fix a spelling error in <linux/compat.h> Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18 13:37 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2020-09-18 12:45 ` [PATCH 3/9] fs: explicitly check for CHECK_IOVEC_ONLY in rw_copy_check_uvector Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18 12:56 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-18 13:39 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2020-09-18 12:45 ` [PATCH 4/9] fs: handle the compat case in import_iovec Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18 12:45 ` [PATCH 5/9] fs: remove various compat readv/writev helpers Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18 12:45 ` [PATCH 6/9] fs: remove the compat readv/writev syscalls Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18 12:45 ` [PATCH 7/9] fs: remove compat_sys_vmsplice Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18 12:45 ` [PATCH 8/9] mm: remove compat_process_vm_{readv,writev} Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18 13:48 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-18 12:45 ` [PATCH 9/9] security/keys: remove compat_keyctl_instantiate_key_iov Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-19 14:24 ` let import_iovec deal with compat_iovecs as well David Laight
2020-09-21 4:41 ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
2020-09-21 11:11 ` David Laight
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