From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.8 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A90EDC43469 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 2020 21:42:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7315D2085B for ; Sun, 20 Sep 2020 21:42:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726452AbgITVmm (ORCPT ); Sun, 20 Sep 2020 17:42:42 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:56046 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726126AbgITVml (ORCPT ); Sun, 20 Sep 2020 17:42:41 -0400 Received: from ZenIV.linux.org.uk (zeniv.linux.org.uk [IPv6:2002:c35c:fd02::1]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 992EFC061755; Sun, 20 Sep 2020 14:42:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from viro by ZenIV.linux.org.uk with local (Exim 4.92.3 #3 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1kK76L-002haB-NO; Sun, 20 Sep 2020 21:42:29 +0000 Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 22:42:29 +0100 From: Al Viro To: Matthew Wilcox Cc: Christoph Hellwig , Andrew Morton , Jens Axboe , Arnd Bergmann , David Howells , linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mips@vger.kernel.org, linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, sparclinux@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-aio@kvack.org, io-uring@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, keyrings@vger.kernel.org, linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/9] kernel: add a PF_FORCE_COMPAT flag Message-ID: <20200920214229.GR3421308@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> References: <20200918124533.3487701-1-hch@lst.de> <20200918124533.3487701-2-hch@lst.de> <20200920151510.GS32101@casper.infradead.org> <20200920180742.GN3421308@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> <20200920190159.GT32101@casper.infradead.org> <20200920191031.GQ3421308@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> <20200920192259.GU32101@casper.infradead.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20200920192259.GU32101@casper.infradead.org> Sender: Al Viro Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: io-uring@vger.kernel.org On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 08:22:59PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 08:10:31PM +0100, Al Viro wrote: > > IMO it's much saner to mark those and refuse to touch them from io_uring... > > Simpler solution is to remove io_uring from the 32-bit syscall list. > If you're a 32-bit process, you don't get to use io_uring. Would > any real users actually care about that? What for? I mean, is there any reason to try and keep those bugs as first-class citizens? IDGI... Yes, we have several special files (out of thousands) that have read()/write() user-visible semantics broken wrt 32bit/64bit. And we have to keep them working that way for existing syscalls. Why would we want to pretend that their behaviour is normal and isn't an ABI bug, not to be repeated for anything new?