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From: Christoph Hellwig <[email protected]>
To: Keith Busch <[email protected]>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <[email protected]>, Keith Busch <[email protected]>,
	[email protected], [email protected],
	[email protected], [email protected],
	[email protected], Alexander Viro <[email protected]>,
	Kernel Team <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv3 0/7] dma mapping optimisations
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2022 20:41:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YvKPTGf56v/[email protected]>

On Tue, Aug 09, 2022 at 10:46:04AM -0600, Keith Busch wrote:
> I am a bit reluctant to require a new memory allocator to use the feature. I'm
> also generally not concerned about the odd resource constrained IOMMU. User
> space drivers pre-map all their memory resources up front, and this is
> essentially the same concept.

Yes, it really isn't an issue for the modern iommus that support vfio,
but it is a limitation on the dma-api.  The old iommus aren't really the
issue, but..

> For swiotlb, though, we can error out the mapping if the requested memory uses
> swiotlb with the device: the driver's .dma_map() can return ENOTSUPP if
> is_swiotlb_buffer() is true. Would that be more acceptable?

No, is_swiotlb_buffer and similar are not exported APIs.  More importantly
with the various secure hypervisor schemes swiotlb is unfortunately
actually massively increasing these days.  On those systems all streaming
mappings use swiotlb.  And the only way to get any kind of half-decent
I/O performance would be the "special" premapped allocator, which is
another reason why I'd like to see it.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-09 19:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-05 16:24 [PATCHv3 0/7] dma mapping optimisations Keith Busch
2022-08-05 16:24 ` [PATCHv3 1/7] blk-mq: add ops to dma map bvec Keith Busch
2022-08-05 16:24 ` [PATCHv3 2/7] file: " Keith Busch
2022-08-08  0:21   ` Dave Chinner
2022-08-08  1:13     ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-08-08  2:15       ` Dave Chinner
2022-08-08  2:49         ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-08-08  7:31           ` Dave Chinner
2022-08-08 15:28             ` Keith Busch
2022-08-08 10:14         ` Pavel Begunkov
2022-08-05 16:24 ` [PATCHv3 3/7] iov_iter: introduce type for preregistered dma tags Keith Busch
2022-08-05 16:24 ` [PATCHv3 4/7] block: add dma tag bio type Keith Busch
2022-08-05 16:24 ` [PATCHv3 5/7] io_uring: introduce file slot release helper Keith Busch
2022-08-05 16:24 ` [PATCHv3 6/7] io_uring: add support for dma pre-mapping Keith Busch
2022-08-05 16:24 ` [PATCHv3 7/7] nvme-pci: implement dma_map support Keith Busch
2022-08-09  6:46 ` [PATCHv3 0/7] dma mapping optimisations Christoph Hellwig
2022-08-09 14:18   ` Keith Busch
2022-08-09 18:39     ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-08-09 16:46   ` Keith Busch
2022-08-09 18:41     ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2022-08-10 18:05       ` Keith Busch
2022-08-11  7:22         ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-08-31 21:19           ` Keith Busch

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