From: Kent Overstreet <[email protected]>
To: David Hildenbrand <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/30] Code tagging framework and applications
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2022 10:23:45 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
On Thu, Sep 01, 2022 at 10:05:03AM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 31.08.22 21:01, Kent Overstreet wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 12:47:32PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> >> On Wed 31-08-22 11:19:48, Mel Gorman wrote:
> >>> Whatever asking for an explanation as to why equivalent functionality
> >>> cannot not be created from ftrace/kprobe/eBPF/whatever is reasonable.
> >>
> >> Fully agreed and this is especially true for a change this size
> >> 77 files changed, 3406 insertions(+), 703 deletions(-)
> >
> > In the case of memory allocation accounting, you flat cannot do this with ftrace
> > - you could maybe do a janky version that isn't fully accurate, much slower,
> > more complicated for the developer to understand and debug and more complicated
> > for the end user.
> >
> > But please, I invite anyone who's actually been doing this with ftrace to
> > demonstrate otherwise.
> >
> > Ftrace just isn't the right tool for the job here - we're talking about adding
> > per callsite accounting to some of the fastest fast paths in the kernel.
> >
> > And the size of the changes for memory allocation accounting are much more
> > reasonable:
> > 33 files changed, 623 insertions(+), 99 deletions(-)
> >
> > The code tagging library should exist anyways, it's been open coded half a dozen
> > times in the kernel already.
>
> Hi Kent,
>
> independent of the other discussions, if it's open coded already, does
> it make sense to factor that already-open-coded part out independently
> of the remainder of the full series here?
It's discussed in the cover letter, that is exactly how the patch series is
structured.
> [I didn't immediately spot if this series also attempts already to
> replace that open-coded part]
Uh huh.
Honestly, some days it feels like lkml is just as bad as slashdot, with people
wanting to get in their two cents without actually reading...
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-09-01 14:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 138+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-08-30 21:48 [RFC PATCH 00/30] Code tagging framework and applications Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-08-30 21:48 ` [RFC PATCH 01/30] kernel/module: move find_kallsyms_symbol_value declaration Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-08-30 21:48 ` [RFC PATCH 02/30] lib/string_helpers: Drop space in string_get_size's output Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-08-30 21:48 ` [RFC PATCH 03/30] Lazy percpu counters Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-08-31 10:02 ` Mel Gorman
2022-08-31 15:37 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-08-31 16:20 ` Kent Overstreet
2022-09-01 6:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-09-01 14:32 ` Kent Overstreet
2022-09-01 14:48 ` Steven Rostedt
2022-09-01 15:43 ` Kent Overstreet
2022-09-01 18:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-08-30 21:48 ` [RFC PATCH 04/30] scripts/kallysms: Always include __start and __stop symbols Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-08-30 21:48 ` [RFC PATCH 05/30] lib: code tagging framework Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-08-30 21:48 ` [RFC PATCH 06/30] lib: code tagging module support Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-08-30 21:48 ` [RFC PATCH 07/30] lib: add support for allocation tagging Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-08-30 21:48 ` [RFC PATCH 08/30] lib: introduce page " Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-08-30 21:48 ` [RFC PATCH 09/30] change alloc_pages name in dma_map_ops to avoid name conflicts Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-08-30 21:48 ` [RFC PATCH 10/30] mm: enable page allocation tagging for __get_free_pages and alloc_pages Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-08-31 10:11 ` Mel Gorman
2022-08-31 15:45 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-08-31 15:52 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-08-31 17:46 ` Kent Overstreet
2022-09-01 1:07 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-01 7:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-08-30 21:49 ` [RFC PATCH 11/30] mm: introduce slabobj_ext to support slab object extensions Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-01 23:35 ` Roman Gushchin
2022-09-02 0:23 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-08-30 21:49 ` [RFC PATCH 12/30] mm: introduce __GFP_NO_OBJ_EXT flag to selectively prevent slabobj_ext creation Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-08-30 21:49 ` [RFC PATCH 13/30] mm/slab: introduce SLAB_NO_OBJ_EXT to avoid obj_ext creation Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-08-30 21:49 ` [RFC PATCH 14/30] mm: prevent slabobj_ext allocations for slabobj_ext and kmem_cache objects Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-01 23:40 ` Roman Gushchin
2022-09-02 0:24 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-08-30 21:49 ` [RFC PATCH 15/30] lib: introduce slab allocation tagging Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-08-30 21:49 ` [RFC PATCH 16/30] mm: enable slab allocation tagging for kmalloc and friends Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-01 23:50 ` Roman Gushchin
2022-08-30 21:49 ` [RFC PATCH 17/30] lib/string.c: strsep_no_empty() Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-08-30 21:49 ` [RFC PATCH 18/30] codetag: add codetag query helper functions Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-08-30 21:49 ` [RFC PATCH 19/30] move stack capture functionality into a separate function for reuse Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-08-30 21:49 ` [RFC PATCH 20/30] lib: introduce support for storing code tag context Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-08-30 21:49 ` [RFC PATCH 21/30] lib: implement context capture support for page and slab allocators Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-08-30 21:49 ` [RFC PATCH 22/30] Code tagging based fault injection Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-08-31 1:51 ` Randy Dunlap
2022-08-31 15:56 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-08-31 10:37 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2022-08-31 15:51 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-08-31 17:30 ` Kent Overstreet
2022-09-01 8:43 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2022-08-30 21:49 ` [RFC PATCH 23/30] timekeeping: Add a missing include Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-08-30 21:49 ` [RFC PATCH 24/30] wait: Clean up waitqueue_entry initialization Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-08-30 21:49 ` [RFC PATCH 25/30] lib/time_stats: New library for statistics on events Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-08-30 21:49 ` [RFC PATCH 26/30] bcache: Convert to lib/time_stats Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-08-30 21:49 ` [RFC PATCH 27/30] Code tagging based latency tracking Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-08-31 1:53 ` Randy Dunlap
2022-08-31 15:55 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-01 7:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-09-01 14:43 ` Kent Overstreet
2022-09-01 21:38 ` Steven Rostedt
2022-09-01 21:46 ` Steven Rostedt
2022-09-01 21:54 ` Kent Overstreet
2022-09-01 22:34 ` Steven Rostedt
2022-09-01 22:55 ` Kent Overstreet
2022-09-02 0:23 ` Steven Rostedt
2022-09-02 1:35 ` Kent Overstreet
2022-09-02 1:59 ` Steven Rostedt
2022-08-30 21:49 ` [RFC PATCH 28/30] Improved symbolic error names Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-01 23:19 ` Joe Perches
2022-09-01 23:26 ` Kent Overstreet
2022-08-30 21:49 ` [RFC PATCH 29/30] dyndbg: Convert to code tagging Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-08-30 21:49 ` [RFC PATCH 30/30] MAINTAINERS: Add entries for code tagging & related Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-08-31 7:38 ` [RFC PATCH 00/30] Code tagging framework and applications Peter Zijlstra
2022-08-31 8:42 ` Kent Overstreet
2022-08-31 10:19 ` Mel Gorman
2022-08-31 10:47 ` Michal Hocko
2022-08-31 15:28 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-08-31 16:48 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-08-31 19:01 ` Kent Overstreet
2022-08-31 20:56 ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-08-31 21:38 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-01 22:27 ` Roman Gushchin
2022-09-01 22:37 ` Kent Overstreet
2022-09-01 22:53 ` Roman Gushchin
2022-09-01 23:36 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-02 0:17 ` Kent Overstreet
2022-09-02 1:04 ` Roman Gushchin
2022-09-02 1:16 ` Kent Overstreet
2022-09-02 12:02 ` Jens Axboe
2022-09-02 19:48 ` Kent Overstreet
2022-09-02 19:53 ` Jens Axboe
2022-09-02 20:05 ` Kent Overstreet
2022-09-02 20:23 ` Jens Axboe
2022-09-01 7:18 ` Michal Hocko
2022-09-01 15:33 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-01 19:15 ` Michal Hocko
2022-09-01 19:39 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-01 20:15 ` Kent Overstreet
2022-09-05 8:49 ` Michal Hocko
2022-09-05 23:46 ` Kent Overstreet
2022-09-06 7:23 ` Michal Hocko
2022-09-06 18:20 ` Kent Overstreet
2022-09-07 11:00 ` Michal Hocko
2022-09-07 13:04 ` Kent Overstreet
2022-09-07 13:45 ` Steven Rostedt
2022-09-08 6:35 ` Kent Overstreet
2022-09-08 6:49 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-08 7:07 ` Kent Overstreet
2022-09-08 7:12 ` Michal Hocko
2022-09-08 7:29 ` Kent Overstreet
2022-09-08 7:47 ` Michal Hocko
2022-09-05 1:32 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-05 8:12 ` Michal Hocko
2022-09-05 8:58 ` Marco Elver
2022-09-05 18:07 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-05 18:03 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-06 8:01 ` Michal Hocko
2022-09-06 15:35 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-05 15:07 ` Steven Rostedt
2022-09-05 18:08 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-05 20:42 ` Kent Overstreet
2022-09-05 22:16 ` Steven Rostedt
2022-09-05 23:50 ` Kent Overstreet
2022-09-01 8:05 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-09-01 14:23 ` Kent Overstreet [this message]
2022-09-01 15:07 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-09-01 15:39 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-01 15:48 ` Kent Overstreet
2022-08-31 15:59 ` Kent Overstreet
2022-09-01 7:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-09-01 7:36 ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2022-09-01 7:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-09-01 11:05 ` Mel Gorman
2022-09-01 16:31 ` Kent Overstreet
2022-09-01 7:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-09-01 14:29 ` Kent Overstreet
2022-09-05 18:44 ` Nadav Amit
2022-09-05 19:16 ` Steven Rostedt
2022-09-01 4:52 ` Oscar Salvador
2022-09-01 5:05 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
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