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There is one company that drivers entirely pointless >marketing BS, and that one is pretty central here. The same company >that said FDP has absolutely no іntent to work on Linux and fought my >initial attempt to make the protocol not totally unusable ony layer system. >And no, that's not Samsung. So you had an interaction in the working group, your feedback was not taking into consideration by the authors, and the result is that FDP cannot be supported in Linux as a consequence of that? Come on...