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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	David Sterba <dsterba@suse.com>,
	Mike Marshall <hubcap@omnibond.com>,
	Martin Brandenburg <martin@omnibond.com>,
	Carlos Maiolino <cem@kernel.org>, Stefan Roesch <shr@fb.com>,
	Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, gfs2@lists.linux.dev,
	io-uring@vger.kernel.org, devel@lists.orangefs.org,
	linux-unionfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 08/10] fs: add support for non-blocking timestamp updates
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2025 00:41:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251222234156.GA19230@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <wynhubqgvknr3fl4umfst62xyacck3avmg6qnbp2na6w7ee3qf@odetcif4kozl>

On Fri, Dec 19, 2025 at 04:12:01PM +0100, Jan Kara wrote:
> Ah, I see now. Thanks for explanation. This interplay between filesystem's
> .update_time() helper and inode_update_timestamps() is rather subtle.
> Cannot we move the SB_LAZYTIME checking from .update_time() to
> inode_update_timestamps() to have it all in one function? The hunk you're
> adding to xfs_vn_update_time() later in the series looks like what the
> other filesystems using it will want as well?

XFS is a bit special as it requires the ilock for timestamp updates
(I'm actually not sure how they are properly serialized for others,
but let's open that can of worms after this one is dealt with..).

But I came up with a way to make this a bit more obvious, which is
by moving the flags selection from mark_inode_dirty_time into
inode_update_timestamps.

> BTW, I've noticed that ovl_update_time() and fat_update_time() should be
> safe wrt NOWAIT IO so perhaps you don't have to disable it in your patch
> (or maybe reenable explicitly?).

fat is safe.  overlayfs is not, touch_atime might sleep in the lower fs.

> And I don't really now what orangefs_update_time() is trying to do with its
> __orangefs_setattr() call which just copies the zeroed-out timestamps from
> iattr into the inode? Mike?

I'll leave that to Mike.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-12-22 23:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-17  6:09 re-enable IOCB_NOWAIT writes to files v3 Christoph Hellwig
2025-12-17  6:09 ` [PATCH 01/10] fs: remove inode_update_time Christoph Hellwig
2025-12-17  6:09 ` [PATCH 02/10] fs: allow error returns from generic_update_time Christoph Hellwig
2025-12-17  6:09 ` [PATCH 03/10] fs: exit early in generic_update_time when there is no work Christoph Hellwig
2025-12-17  6:09 ` [PATCH 04/10] fs: factor out a mark_inode_dirty_time helper Christoph Hellwig
2025-12-17  6:09 ` [PATCH 05/10] fs: allow error returns from inode_update_timestamps Christoph Hellwig
2025-12-17 12:23   ` Jan Kara
2025-12-17  6:09 ` [PATCH 06/10] fs: factor out a sync_lazytime helper Christoph Hellwig
2025-12-17 12:26   ` Jan Kara
2025-12-17  6:09 ` [PATCH 07/10] fs: add a ->sync_lazytime method Christoph Hellwig
2025-12-17 12:30   ` Jan Kara
2025-12-18  6:13     ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-12-17  6:09 ` [PATCH 08/10] fs: add support for non-blocking timestamp updates Christoph Hellwig
2025-12-17 12:42   ` Jan Kara
2025-12-18  6:19     ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-12-19 15:12       ` Jan Kara
2025-12-22 23:41         ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2025-12-17  6:09 ` [PATCH 09/10] xfs: implement ->sync_lazytime Christoph Hellwig
2025-12-17  6:09 ` [PATCH 10/10] xfs: enable non-blocking timestamp updates Christoph Hellwig

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