From: David Hildenbrand <[email protected]>
To: Andrew Dona-Couch <[email protected]>,
Andrew Morton <[email protected]>,
Drew DeVault <[email protected]>
Cc: Ammar Faizi <[email protected]>,
[email protected], [email protected],
io_uring Mailing List <[email protected]>,
Jens Axboe <[email protected]>,
Pavel Begunkov <[email protected]>,
[email protected]
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Increase default MLOCK_LIMIT to 8 MiB
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2021 19:26:14 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
On 22.11.21 18:55, Andrew Dona-Couch wrote:
> Forgive me for jumping in to an already overburdened thread. But can
> someone pushing back on this clearly explain the issue with applying
> this patch?
It will allow unprivileged users to easily and even "accidentally"
allocate more unmovable memory than it should in some environments. Such
limits exist for a reason. And there are ways for admins/distros to
tweak these limits if they know what they are doing.
>
> The only concerns I've heard are that it doesn't go far enough. That
> another strategy (that everyone seems to agree would be a fair bit more
> effort) could potentially achieve the same goal and then some. Isn't
> that exactly what's meant by "don't let perfection be the enemy of the
> good"? The saying is not talking about literal perfection -- the idea is
> that you make progress where you can, and that incremental progress and
> broader changes are not necessarily in conflict.
>
> This tiny patch could be a step in the right direction. Why does this
> thread need dozens of replies?
Because it does something controversial. Send controversial patches,
receive many opinions, it's that simple.
This is not a step into the right direction. This is all just trying to
hide the fact that we're exposing FOLL_LONGTERM usage to random
unprivileged users.
Maybe we could instead try getting rid of FOLL_LONGTERM usage and the
memlock limit in io_uring altogether, for example, by using mmu
notifiers. But I'm no expert on the io_uring code.
--
Thanks,
David / dhildenb
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-11-22 18:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-10-28 8:08 [PATCH] Increase default MLOCK_LIMIT to 8 MiB Drew DeVault
2021-10-28 18:22 ` Jens Axboe
2021-11-04 14:27 ` Cyril Hrubis
2021-11-04 14:44 ` Jens Axboe
2021-11-06 2:33 ` Ammar Faizi
2021-11-06 7:05 ` Drew DeVault
2021-11-06 7:12 ` Ammar Faizi
2021-11-16 4:35 ` Andrew Morton
2021-11-16 6:32 ` Drew DeVault
2021-11-16 19:47 ` Andrew Morton
2021-11-16 19:48 ` Drew DeVault
2021-11-16 21:37 ` Andrew Morton
2021-11-17 8:23 ` Drew DeVault
2021-11-22 17:11 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-11-22 17:55 ` Andrew Dona-Couch
2021-11-22 18:26 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2021-11-22 19:53 ` Jens Axboe
2021-11-22 20:03 ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-11-22 20:04 ` Jens Axboe
2021-11-22 20:08 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-11-22 20:44 ` Jens Axboe
2021-11-22 21:56 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-11-23 12:02 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-11-23 13:25 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-23 13:39 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-11-23 14:07 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-23 14:44 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-11-23 17:00 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-23 17:04 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-11-23 22:04 ` Vlastimil Babka
2021-11-23 23:59 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-24 8:57 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-11-24 13:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-24 13:25 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-11-24 13:28 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-24 13:29 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-11-24 13:48 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-24 14:14 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-11-24 15:34 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-24 16:43 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-11-24 18:35 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-24 19:09 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-11-24 23:11 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-30 15:52 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-11-24 18:37 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-11-24 14:37 ` Vlastimil Babka
2021-11-24 14:41 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-11-16 18:36 ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-11-16 18:44 ` Drew DeVault
2021-11-16 18:55 ` Jens Axboe
2021-11-16 19:21 ` Vito Caputo
2021-11-16 19:25 ` Drew DeVault
2021-11-16 19:46 ` Vito Caputo
2021-11-16 19:41 ` Jens Axboe
2021-11-17 22:26 ` Johannes Weiner
2021-11-17 23:17 ` Jens Axboe
2021-11-18 21:58 ` Andrew Morton
2021-11-19 7:41 ` Drew DeVault
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