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From: Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>
To: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	io-uring@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V6 7/8] io_uring/uring_cmd: support provide group kernel buffer
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2024 16:14:33 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <38ad4c05-6ee3-4839-8d61-f8e1b5219556@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZwJObC6mzetw4goe@fedora>

On 10/6/24 09:46, Ming Lei wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 04, 2024 at 04:44:54PM +0100, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
>> On 9/12/24 11:49, Ming Lei wrote:
>>> Allow uring command to be group leader for providing kernel buffer,
>>> and this way can support generic device zero copy over device buffer.
>>>
>>> The following patch will use the way to support zero copy for ublk.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
>>> ---
>>>    include/linux/io_uring/cmd.h  |  7 +++++++
>>>    include/uapi/linux/io_uring.h |  7 ++++++-
>>>    io_uring/uring_cmd.c          | 28 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>    3 files changed, 41 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/include/linux/io_uring/cmd.h b/include/linux/io_uring/cmd.h
>>> index 447fbfd32215..fde3a2ec7d9a 100644
>>> --- a/include/linux/io_uring/cmd.h
>>> +++ b/include/linux/io_uring/cmd.h
>>> @@ -48,6 +48,8 @@ void __io_uring_cmd_do_in_task(struct io_uring_cmd *ioucmd,
>>>    void io_uring_cmd_mark_cancelable(struct io_uring_cmd *cmd,
>>>    		unsigned int issue_flags);
>>> +int io_uring_cmd_provide_kbuf(struct io_uring_cmd *ioucmd,
>>> +		const struct io_uring_kernel_buf *grp_kbuf);
>>>    #else
>>>    static inline int io_uring_cmd_import_fixed(u64 ubuf, unsigned long len, int rw,
>>>    			      struct iov_iter *iter, void *ioucmd)
>>> @@ -67,6 +69,11 @@ static inline void io_uring_cmd_mark_cancelable(struct io_uring_cmd *cmd,
>>>    		unsigned int issue_flags)
>>>    {
>>>    }
>>> +static inline int io_uring_cmd_provide_kbuf(struct io_uring_cmd *ioucmd,
>>> +		const struct io_uring_kernel_buf *grp_kbuf)
>>> +{
>>> +	return -EOPNOTSUPP;
>>> +}
>>>    #endif
>>>    /*
>>> diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/io_uring.h b/include/uapi/linux/io_uring.h
>>> index 2af32745ebd3..11985eeac10e 100644
>>> --- a/include/uapi/linux/io_uring.h
>>> +++ b/include/uapi/linux/io_uring.h
>>> @@ -271,9 +271,14 @@ enum io_uring_op {
>>>     * sqe->uring_cmd_flags		top 8bits aren't available for userspace
>>>     * IORING_URING_CMD_FIXED	use registered buffer; pass this flag
>>>     *				along with setting sqe->buf_index.
>>> + * IORING_PROVIDE_GROUP_KBUF	this command provides group kernel buffer
>>> + *				for member requests which can retrieve
>>> + *				any sub-buffer with offset(sqe->addr) and
>>> + *				len(sqe->len)
>>
>> Is there a good reason it needs to be a cmd generic flag instead of
>> ublk specific?
> 
> io_uring request isn't visible for drivers, so driver can't know if the
> uring command is one group leader.

btw, does it have to be in a group at all? Sure, nobody would be
able to consume the buffer, but otherwise should be fine.

> Another way is to add new API of io_uring_cmd_may_provide_buffer(ioucmd)

The checks can be done inside of io_uring_cmd_provide_kbuf()

> so driver can check if device buffer can be provided with this uring_cmd,
> but I prefer to the new uring_cmd flag:
> 
> - IORING_PROVIDE_GROUP_KBUF can provide device buffer in generic way.

Ok, could be.

> - ->prep() can fail fast in case that it isn't one group request

I don't believe that matters, a behaving user should never
see that kind of failure.


>> 1. Extra overhead for files / cmds that don't even care about the
>> feature.
> 
> It is just checking ioucmd->flags in ->prep(), and basically zero cost.

It's not if we add extra code for each every feature, at
which point it becomes a maze of such "ifs".

>> 2. As it stands with this patch, the flag is ignored by all other
>> cmd implementations, which might be quite confusing as an api,
>> especially so since if we don't set that REQ_F_GROUP_KBUF memeber
>> requests will silently try to import a buffer the "normal way",
> 
> The usage is same with buffer select or fixed buffer, and consumer
> has to check the flag.

We fails requests when it's asked to use the feature but
those are not supported, at least non-cmd requests.

> And same with IORING_URING_CMD_FIXED which is ignored by other
> implementations except for nvme, :-)

Oh, that's bad. If you'd try to implement the flag in the
future it might break the uapi. It might be worth to patch it
up on the ublk side, i.e. reject the flag, + backport, and hope
nobody tried to use them together, hmm?

> I can understand the concern, but it exits since uring cmd is born.
> 
>> i.e. interpret sqe->addr or such as the target buffer.
> 
>> 3. We can't even put some nice semantics on top since it's
>> still cmd specific and not generic to all other io_uring
>> requests.
>>
>> I'd even think that it'd make sense to implement it as a
>> new cmd opcode, but that's the business of the file implementing
>> it, i.e. ublk.
>>
>>>     */
>>>    #define IORING_URING_CMD_FIXED	(1U << 0)
>>> -#define IORING_URING_CMD_MASK	IORING_URING_CMD_FIXED
>>> +#define IORING_PROVIDE_GROUP_KBUF	(1U << 1)
>>> +#define IORING_URING_CMD_MASK	(IORING_URING_CMD_FIXED | IORING_PROVIDE_GROUP_KBUF)
> 
> It needs one new file operation, and we shouldn't work toward
> this way.

Not a new io_uring request, I rather meant sqe->cmd_op,
like UBLK_U_IO_FETCH_REQ_PROVIDER_BUFFER.

-- 
Pavel Begunkov

  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-09 15:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-12 10:49 [PATCH V6 0/8] io_uring: support sqe group and provide group kbuf Ming Lei
2024-09-12 10:49 ` [PATCH V6 1/8] io_uring: add io_link_req() helper Ming Lei
2024-09-12 10:49 ` [PATCH V6 2/8] io_uring: add io_submit_fail_link() helper Ming Lei
2024-09-12 10:49 ` [PATCH V6 3/8] io_uring: add helper of io_req_commit_cqe() Ming Lei
2024-09-12 10:49 ` [PATCH V6 4/8] io_uring: support SQE group Ming Lei
2024-10-04 13:12   ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-10-06  3:54     ` Ming Lei
2024-10-09 11:53       ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-10-09 12:14         ` Ming Lei
2024-09-12 10:49 ` [PATCH V6 5/8] io_uring: support sqe group with members depending on leader Ming Lei
2024-10-04 13:18   ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-10-06  3:54     ` Ming Lei
2024-09-12 10:49 ` [PATCH V6 6/8] io_uring: support providing sqe group buffer Ming Lei
2024-10-04 15:32   ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-10-06  8:20     ` Ming Lei
2024-10-09 14:25       ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-10-10  3:00         ` Ming Lei
2024-10-10 18:51           ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-10-11  2:00             ` Ming Lei
2024-10-11  4:06               ` Ming Lei
2024-10-06  9:47     ` Ming Lei
2024-10-09 11:57       ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-10-09 12:21         ` Ming Lei
2024-09-12 10:49 ` [PATCH V6 7/8] io_uring/uring_cmd: support provide group kernel buffer Ming Lei
2024-10-04 15:44   ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-10-06  8:46     ` Ming Lei
2024-10-09 15:14       ` Pavel Begunkov [this message]
2024-10-10  3:28         ` Ming Lei
2024-10-10 15:48           ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-10-10 19:31             ` Jens Axboe
2024-10-11  2:30               ` Ming Lei
2024-10-11  2:39                 ` Jens Axboe
2024-10-11  3:07                   ` Ming Lei
2024-10-11 13:24                     ` Jens Axboe
2024-10-11 14:20                       ` Ming Lei
2024-10-11 14:41                         ` Jens Axboe
2024-10-11 15:45                           ` Ming Lei
2024-10-11 16:49                             ` Jens Axboe
2024-10-12  3:35                               ` Ming Lei
2024-10-14 18:40                             ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-10-15 11:05                               ` Ming Lei
2024-09-12 10:49 ` [PATCH V6 8/8] ublk: support provide io buffer Ming Lei
2024-10-17 22:31   ` Uday Shankar
2024-10-18  0:45     ` Ming Lei
2024-09-26 10:27 ` [PATCH V6 0/8] io_uring: support sqe group and provide group kbuf Ming Lei
2024-09-26 12:18   ` Jens Axboe
2024-09-26 19:46     ` Pavel Begunkov

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