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From: Hao Xu <[email protected]>
To: Jens Axboe <[email protected]>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <[email protected]>,
	Christian Brauner <[email protected]>
Cc: Dave Chinner <[email protected]>,
	[email protected],
	Dominique Martinet <[email protected]>,
	Pavel Begunkov <[email protected]>,
	Alexander Viro <[email protected]>,
	Stefan Roesch <[email protected]>, Clay Harris <[email protected]>,
	[email protected], Wanpeng Li <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] io_uring: add support for getdents
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2023 17:33:54 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>

On 8/1/23 08:28, Jens Axboe wrote:
> On 7/31/23 9:26?AM, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
>> I've watched quite a bit of NOWAIT whackamole going on over the past few
>> years (i_rwsem, the ILOCK, the IO layer, memory allocations...). IIRC
>> these filesystem ios all have to run in process context, right? If so,
>> why don't we capture the NOWAIT state in a PF flag? We already do that
>> for NOFS/NOIO memory allocations to make sure that /all/ reclaim
>> attempts cannot recurse into the fs/io stacks.
>
> I would greatly prefer passing down the context rather than capitulating
> and adding a task_struct flag for this. I think it _kind of_ makes sense
> for things like allocations, as you cannot easily track that all the way
> down, but it's a really ugly solution. It certainly creates more churn
> passing it down, but it also reveals the parts that need to check it.
> WHen new code is added, it's much more likely you'll spot the fact that
> there's passed in context. For allocation, you end up in the allocator
> anyway, which can augment the gfp mask with whatever is set in the task.
> The same is not true for locking and other bits, as they don't return a
> value to begin with. When we know they are sane, we can flag the fs as
> supporting it (like we've done for async buffered reads, for example).
>
> It's also not an absolute thing, like memory allocations are. It's
> perfectly fine to grab a mutex under NOWAIT issue. What you should not

Hi Jens,
To make sure, I'd like to ask, for memory allocation, GFP_NOIO semantics
is all we need in NOWAIT issue, GFP_NOWAIT is not necessary, do I
understand it right?

Thanks,
Hao

> do is grab a mutex that someone else can grab while waiting on IO. This
> kind of extra context is only available in the code in question, not
> generically for eg mutex locking.
>
> I'm not a huge fan of the "let's add a bool nowait". Most/all use cases
> pass down state anyway, putting it in a suitable type struct seems much
> cleaner to me than the out-of-band approach of just adding a
> current->please_nowait.
>



  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-08-08 16:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-18 13:21 [PATCH v4 0/5] io_uring getdents Hao Xu
2023-07-18 13:21 ` [PATCH 1/5] fs: split off vfs_getdents function of getdents64 syscall Hao Xu
2023-07-18 13:21 ` [PATCH 2/5] vfs_getdents/struct dir_context: add flags field Hao Xu
2023-07-18 13:21 ` [PATCH 3/5] io_uring: add support for getdents Hao Xu
2023-07-19  8:56   ` Hao Xu
2023-07-26 15:00   ` Christian Brauner
2023-07-27 11:51     ` Hao Xu
2023-07-27 14:27       ` Christian Brauner
2023-07-27 15:12         ` Pavel Begunkov
2023-07-27 15:52           ` Christian Brauner
2023-07-27 16:17             ` Pavel Begunkov
2023-07-27 16:28               ` Christian Brauner
2023-07-31  1:58                 ` Dave Chinner
2023-07-31  7:34                   ` Hao Xu
2023-07-31  7:50                     ` Christian Brauner
2023-07-31  7:40                   ` Christian Brauner
2023-07-30 18:02         ` Hao Xu
2023-07-31  8:18           ` Christian Brauner
2023-07-31  9:31             ` Hao Xu
2023-07-31  1:33         ` Dave Chinner
2023-07-31  8:13           ` Christian Brauner
2023-07-31 15:26             ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-07-31 22:18               ` Dave Chinner
2023-08-01  0:28               ` Jens Axboe
2023-08-01  0:47                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-08-01  0:49                   ` Jens Axboe
2023-08-01  1:01                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-08-01  7:00                       ` Christian Brauner
2023-08-01  6:59                     ` Christian Brauner
2023-08-01  7:17                 ` Christian Brauner
2023-08-08  4:34                 ` Hao Xu
2023-08-08  5:18                   ` Hao Xu
2023-08-08  9:33                 ` Hao Xu [this message]
2023-08-08 22:55                   ` Jens Axboe
2023-08-01 18:39             ` Hao Xu
2023-07-18 13:21 ` [PATCH 4/5] xfs: add NOWAIT semantics for readdir Hao Xu
2023-07-19  2:35   ` kernel test robot
2023-07-18 13:21 ` [PATCH RFC 5/5] disable fixed file for io_uring getdents for now Hao Xu
2023-07-26 14:23   ` Christian Brauner
2023-07-27 12:09     ` Hao Xu
2023-07-19  6:04 ` [PATCH v4 0/5] io_uring getdents Christian Brauner

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