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From: Pavel Begunkov <[email protected]>
To: Christoph Hellwig <[email protected]>, Anuj Gupta <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected],
	[email protected], [email protected], [email protected],
	[email protected], [email protected],
	[email protected], [email protected],
	[email protected], [email protected],
	[email protected], [email protected],
	Kanchan Joshi <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 06/11] io_uring: introduce attributes for read/write and PI support
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2024 13:09:44 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>

On 11/14/24 12:16, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 14, 2024 at 04:15:12PM +0530, Anuj Gupta wrote:
>> PI attribute is supported only for direct IO. Also, vectored read/write
>> operations are not supported with PI currently.

And my apologies Anuj, I've been busy, I hope to take a look
at this series today / tomorrow.

> Eww.  I know it's frustration for your if maintainers give contradicting
> guidance, but this is really an awful interface.  Not only the pointless

Because once you placed it at a fixed location nothing realistically
will be able to reuse it. Not everyone will need PI, but the assumption
that there will be more more additional types of attributes / parameters.

With SQE128 it's also a problem that now all SQEs are 128 bytes regardless
of whether a particular request needs it or not, and the user will need
to zero them for each request.

The discussion continued in the v6 thread, here

https://lore.kernel.org/all/[email protected]/T/#m12beca2ede2bd2017796adb391bedec9c95d85c3

and a little bit more here:

https://lore.kernel.org/all/[email protected]/T/#mc3f7a95915a64551e061d37b33a643676c5d87b2

> indirection which make the interface hard to use, but limiting it to
> not support vectored I/O makes it pretty useless.

I'm not sure why that's the case and need to take a look), but I
don't immediately see how it's relevant to that part of the API. It
shouldn't really matter where the main PI structure is located, you
get an iovec pointer and code from there wouldn't be any different.

> I guess I need to do a little read-up on why Pavel wants this, but
> from the block/fs perspective the previous interface made so much
> more sense.

-- 
Pavel Begunkov

  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-14 13:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CGME20241114105326epcas5p103b2c996293fa680092b97c747fdbd59@epcas5p1.samsung.com>
2024-11-14 10:45 ` [PATCH v9 00/11] Read/Write with meta/integrity Anuj Gupta
     [not found]   ` <CGME20241114105352epcas5p109c1742fa8a6552296b9c104f2271308@epcas5p1.samsung.com>
2024-11-14 10:45     ` [PATCH v9 01/11] block: define set of integrity flags to be inherited by cloned bip Anuj Gupta
     [not found]   ` <CGME20241114105354epcas5p49a73947c3d37be4189023f66fb7ba413@epcas5p4.samsung.com>
2024-11-14 10:45     ` [PATCH v9 02/11] block: copy back bounce buffer to user-space correctly in case of split Anuj Gupta
     [not found]   ` <CGME20241114105357epcas5p41fd14282d4abfe564e858b37babe708a@epcas5p4.samsung.com>
2024-11-14 10:45     ` [PATCH v9 03/11] block: modify bio_integrity_map_user to accept iov_iter as argument Anuj Gupta
     [not found]   ` <CGME20241114105400epcas5p270b8062a0c4f26833a5b497f057d65a7@epcas5p2.samsung.com>
2024-11-14 10:45     ` [PATCH v9 04/11] fs, iov_iter: define meta io descriptor Anuj Gupta
     [not found]   ` <CGME20241114105402epcas5p41b1f6054a557f1bda2cfddfdfb9a9477@epcas5p4.samsung.com>
2024-11-14 10:45     ` [PATCH v9 05/11] fs: introduce IOCB_HAS_METADATA for metadata Anuj Gupta
     [not found]   ` <CGME20241114105405epcas5p24ca2fb9017276ff8a50ef447638fd739@epcas5p2.samsung.com>
2024-11-14 10:45     ` [PATCH v9 06/11] io_uring: introduce attributes for read/write and PI support Anuj Gupta
2024-11-14 12:16       ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-11-14 13:09         ` Pavel Begunkov [this message]
2024-11-14 15:19           ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-11-15 16:40             ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-11-15 17:12               ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-11-15 17:44                 ` Jens Axboe
2024-11-15 18:00                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-11-15 19:03                 ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-11-18 12:49                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-11-15 18:04           ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-11-20 17:35             ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-11-21  6:54               ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-11-15 13:29         ` Anuj gupta
2024-11-16  0:00       ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-11-16  0:32         ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-11-18 12:50           ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-11-18 16:59             ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-11-18 17:03               ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-11-18 17:45                 ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-11-19 12:49                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-11-16 23:09       ` kernel test robot
     [not found]   ` <CGME20241114105408epcas5p3c77cda2faf7ccb37abbfd8e95b4ad1f5@epcas5p3.samsung.com>
2024-11-14 10:45     ` [PATCH v9 07/11] io_uring: inline read/write attributes and PI Anuj Gupta
     [not found]   ` <CGME20241114105410epcas5p1c6a4e6141b073ccfd6277288f7d5e28b@epcas5p1.samsung.com>
2024-11-14 10:45     ` [PATCH v9 08/11] block: introduce BIP_CHECK_GUARD/REFTAG/APPTAG bip_flags Anuj Gupta
     [not found]   ` <CGME20241114105413epcas5p2d7da8675df2de0d1efba3057144e691d@epcas5p2.samsung.com>
2024-11-14 10:45     ` [PATCH v9 09/11] nvme: add support for passing on the application tag Anuj Gupta
     [not found]   ` <CGME20241114105416epcas5p3a7aa552775cfe50f60ef89f7d982ea12@epcas5p3.samsung.com>
2024-11-14 10:45     ` [PATCH v9 10/11] scsi: add support for user-meta interface Anuj Gupta
     [not found]   ` <CGME20241114105418epcas5p1537d72b9016d10670cf97751704e2cc8@epcas5p1.samsung.com>
2024-11-14 10:45     ` [PATCH v9 11/11] block: add support to pass user meta buffer Anuj Gupta

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