From: Stefan Metzmacher <[email protected]>
To: Pavel Begunkov <[email protected]>,
io-uring <[email protected]>, Jens Axboe <[email protected]>
Cc: Jakub Kicinski <[email protected]>, netdev <[email protected]>,
Dylan Yudaken <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: IORING_SEND_NOTIF_USER_DATA (was Re: IORING_CQE_F_COPIED)
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2022 14:10:36 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
Am 21.10.22 um 13:20 schrieb Pavel Begunkov:
> On 10/21/22 10:45, Stefan Metzmacher wrote:
>> Am 21.10.22 um 11:27 schrieb Pavel Begunkov:
>>> On 10/21/22 09:32, Stefan Metzmacher wrote:
>>>> Hi Pavel,
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Experimenting with this stuff lets me wish to have a way to
>>>>>>>> have a different 'user_data' field for the notif cqe,
>>>>>>>> maybe based on a IORING_RECVSEND_ flag, it may make my life
>>>>>>>> easier and would avoid some complexity in userspace...
>>>>>>>> As I need to handle retry on short writes even with MSG_WAITALL
>>>>>>>> as EINTR and other errors could cause them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any comment on this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> IORING_SEND_NOTIF_USER_DATA could let us use
>>>>>> notif->cqe.user_data = sqe->addr3;
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd rather not use the last available u64, tbh, that was the
>>>>> reason for not adding a second user_data in the first place.
>>>>
>>>> As far as I can see io_send_zc_prep has this:
>>>>
>>>> if (unlikely(READ_ONCE(sqe->__pad2[0]) || READ_ONCE(sqe->addr3)))
>>>> return -EINVAL;
>>>>
>>>> both are u64...
>>>
>>> Hah, true, completely forgot about that one
>>
>> So would a commit like below be fine for you?
>>
>> Do you have anything in mind for SEND[MSG]_ZC that could possibly use
>> another u64 in future?
>
> It'll most likely be taken in the future, some features are planned
> some I can imagine.
Can give examples? As I can't imagine any possible feature.
> The question is how necessary this one is and/or
> how much simpler it would make it considering that CQEs are ordered
> and apps still need to check for F_MORE. It shouldn't even require
> refcounting. Can you elaborate on the simplifying userspace part?
>
It's not critical, it would just make it easier to dispatch
a different callback functions for the two cases.
The current problem I'm facing is that I have a structure
holding the state of an response and that has a single embedded
completion structure:
(simplified) struct completion {
uint32_t generation;
void (*callback_fn)(void *callback_private, const struct io_uring_cqe *cqe);
void *callback_private;
};
I use the memory address of the completion structure glued with the lower bits of the generation
as 'user_data'. Imagine that I got a short write from SENDMSG_ZC/WAITALL
because EINTR was generated, then I need to retry from userspace, which
I'd try immediately without waiting for the NOTIF cqe to arrive.
For each incoming cqe I get the completion address and the generation
out of user_data and then verify the generation against the one stored in
the completion in order to detect bugs, before passing over to callback_fn().
Because I still need to handle the NOTIF cqe from the first try
I can't change the generation for the next try.
I thought about using two completion structures, one for the main SENDMSG_ZC result
(which gets its generation incremented with each retry) and one for the NOTIF cqes
just keeping generation stable having a simple callback_fn just waiting for a
refcount to get 0.
Most likely I just need to sit down concentrated to get the
recounting and similar things sorted out.
If there are really useful things we will do with addr3 and __pad2[0],
I can try to cope with it... It would just be sad if they wouldn't be used anyway.
metze
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-10-21 12:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-10-14 11:06 IORING_CQE_F_COPIED Stefan Metzmacher
2022-10-17 16:46 ` IORING_CQE_F_COPIED Pavel Begunkov
2022-10-18 8:43 ` IORING_CQE_F_COPIED Stefan Metzmacher
2022-10-19 15:06 ` IORING_CQE_F_COPIED Pavel Begunkov
2022-10-19 16:12 ` IORING_CQE_F_COPIED Stefan Metzmacher
2022-10-20 2:24 ` IORING_CQE_F_COPIED Pavel Begunkov
2022-10-20 10:04 ` IORING_SEND_NOTIF_REPORT_USAGE (was Re: IORING_CQE_F_COPIED) Stefan Metzmacher
2022-10-20 13:46 ` Pavel Begunkov
2022-10-20 14:51 ` Stefan Metzmacher
2022-10-20 15:31 ` Pavel Begunkov
2022-10-21 9:36 ` Stefan Metzmacher
2022-10-21 11:09 ` Pavel Begunkov
2022-10-21 14:03 ` Stefan Metzmacher
2022-10-27 8:47 ` Stefan Metzmacher
2022-10-27 10:51 ` Pavel Begunkov
2022-10-20 10:10 ` IORING_SEND_NOTIF_USER_DATA " Stefan Metzmacher
2022-10-20 15:37 ` Pavel Begunkov
2022-10-21 8:32 ` Stefan Metzmacher
2022-10-21 9:27 ` Pavel Begunkov
2022-10-21 9:45 ` Stefan Metzmacher
2022-10-21 11:20 ` Pavel Begunkov
2022-10-21 12:10 ` Stefan Metzmacher [this message]
2022-10-21 10:15 ` Stefan Metzmacher
2022-10-21 11:26 ` Pavel Begunkov
2022-10-21 12:38 ` Stefan Metzmacher
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