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From: Pavel Begunkov <[email protected]>
To: Miklos Szeredi <[email protected]>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <[email protected]>,
	Andy Lutomirski <[email protected]>,
	Stefano Garzarella <[email protected]>,
	Kees Cook <[email protected]>,
	Christian Brauner <[email protected]>,
	[email protected], [email protected],
	Linux API <[email protected]>,
	[email protected], [email protected]
Subject: Re: strace of io_uring events?
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 23:20:26 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJfpegt9=p4uo5U2GXqc-rwqOESzZCWAkGMRTY1r8H6fuXx96g@mail.gmail.com>

On 15/07/2020 23:09, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 9:43 PM Pavel Begunkov <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> To clear details for those who are not familiar with io_uring:
>>
>> io_uring has a pair of queues, submission (SQ) and completion queues (CQ),
>> both shared between kernel and user spaces. The userspace submits requests
>> by filling a chunk of memory in SQ. The kernel picks up SQ entries in
>> (syscall io_uring_enter) or asynchronously by polling SQ.
>>
>> CQ entries are filled by the kernel completely asynchronously and
>> in parallel. Some users just poll CQ to get them, but also have a way
>> to wait for them.
>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What do people think?
>>>>>
>>>>> From what I can tell, listing the submitted requests on
>>>>> io_uring_enter() would not be hard.  Request completion is
>>>>> asynchronous, however, and may not require  io_uring_enter() syscall.
>>>>> Am I correct?
>>
>> Both, submission and completion sides may not require a syscall.
> 
> Okay.
> 
>>>>> Is there some existing tracing infrastructure that strace could use to
>>>>> get async completion events?  Should we be introducing one?
>>
>> There are static trace points covering all needs.
> 
> This needs to be unprivileged, or its usefulness is again compromized.
> 
>>
>> And if not used the whole thing have to be zero-overhead. Otherwise
>> there is perf, which is zero-overhead, and this IMHO won't fly.
> 
> Obviously it needs to be zero overhead if not tracing.
> 
> What won't fly?
Any approach that is not "zero-overhead if not used". 

-- 
Pavel Begunkov

  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-15 20:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-15 11:12 strace of io_uring events? Miklos Szeredi
2020-07-15 14:35 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-15 17:11   ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-15 19:42     ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-07-15 20:09       ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-07-15 20:20         ` Pavel Begunkov [this message]
2020-07-15 23:07           ` Kees Cook
2020-07-16 13:14             ` Stefano Garzarella
2020-07-16 15:12               ` Kees Cook
2020-07-17  8:01                 ` Stefano Garzarella
2020-07-21 15:27                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-21 15:31                     ` Jens Axboe
2020-07-21 17:23                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-21 17:30                         ` Jens Axboe
2020-07-21 17:44                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-21 18:39                             ` Jens Axboe
2020-07-21 19:44                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-21 19:48                                 ` Jens Axboe
2020-07-21 19:56                                 ` Andres Freund
2020-07-21 19:37                         ` Andres Freund
2020-07-21 15:58                     ` Stefano Garzarella
2020-07-23 10:39                       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-07-23 13:37                       ` Colin Walters
2020-07-24  7:25                         ` Stefano Garzarella
2020-07-16 13:17             ` Aleksa Sarai
2020-07-16 15:19               ` Kees Cook
2020-07-17  8:17               ` Cyril Hrubis
2020-07-16 16:24             ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-16  0:12     ` tytso

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