From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org>,
Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
Cc: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
dan.j.williams@intel.com,
Caleb Sander Mateos <csander@purestorage.com>,
io-uring <io-uring@vger.kernel.org>,
workflows@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Link trailers revisited (was Re: [GIT PULL] io_uring fix for 6.17-rc5)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2025 16:48:53 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <497c9c10-3309-49b9-8d4f-ff0bc34df4e5@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250909-green-oriole-of-speed-85cd6d@lemur>
On 9/9/25 16:42, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 09, 2025 at 08:35:18AM -0600, Jens Axboe wrote:
>> >> On a global scale, that's quite a number of saved mailing list archive searches.
>> >
>> > +1 FWIW. I also started slapping the links on all patches in a series,
>> > even if we apply with a merge commit. I don't know of a good way with
>> > git to "get to the first parent merge" so scanning the history to find
>> > the link in the cover letter was annoying me :(
>>
>> Like I've tried to argue, I find them useful too. But after this whole
>> mess of a thread, I killed -l from my scripts. I do think it's a mistake
>> and it seems like the only reason to remove them is that Linus expects
>> to find something at the end of the link rainbow and is often
>> disappointed, and that annoys him enough to rant about it.
>>
>> I know some folks downstream of me on the io_uring side find them useful
>> too, because they've asked me several times to please remember to ensure
>> my own self-applied patches have the link as well. For those, I tend to
>> pick or add them locally rather than use b4 for it, which is why they've
>> never had links.
>>
>> As far as I can tell, only two things have been established here:
>>
>> 1) Linus hates the Link tags, except if they have extra information
>> 2) Lots of other folks find them useful
>>
>> and hence we're at a solid deadlock here.
>
> I did suggest that provenance links use the patch.msgid.link subdomain. This
Yes, and the PR that started this thread had a normal lore link. Would it
have been different with a patch.msgid.link as perhaps Linus would not try
opening it and become disappointed?
You did kinda ask that early in the thread but then the conversation went in
different directions.
> should clearly mark it as the source of the patch and not any other
> discussion. I think this is a reasonable compromise that will only mildly
> annoy Linus but let subsystems relying on these links continue to use them.
>
> -K
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-09 14:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-05 11:18 [GIT PULL] io_uring fix for 6.17-rc5 Jens Axboe
2025-09-05 17:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-09-05 17:45 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-09-05 18:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-09-05 19:33 ` Link trailers revisited (was Re: [GIT PULL] io_uring fix for 6.17-rc5) Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-09-05 20:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-09-05 20:47 ` Sasha Levin
2025-09-06 11:27 ` Greg KH
2025-09-06 11:27 ` Greg KH
2025-09-06 11:30 ` Greg KH
2025-09-06 13:51 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-09-06 15:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-09-06 18:50 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-09-06 19:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-09-08 9:11 ` Jani Nikula
2025-09-08 11:59 ` Mark Brown
2025-09-08 20:11 ` dan.j.williams
2025-09-09 11:29 ` Mark Brown
2025-09-09 13:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-09-09 14:18 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-09-09 14:35 ` Jens Axboe
2025-09-09 14:42 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-09-09 14:48 ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2025-09-09 14:50 ` Jens Axboe
2025-09-09 15:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-09-09 16:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-09-09 17:08 ` Mark Brown
2025-09-09 17:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-09-09 17:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-09-09 18:31 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-09-09 19:36 ` dan.j.williams
2025-09-10 1:12 ` dan.j.williams
2025-09-10 12:19 ` Mark Brown
2025-09-09 17:25 ` dan.j.williams
2025-09-09 17:56 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-09-09 18:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-09-09 18:13 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-09-09 18:06 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-09 18:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-09-09 18:22 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-09 21:05 ` Mark Brown
2025-09-10 1:33 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-09-09 14:44 ` Greg KH
2025-09-09 15:14 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-09-09 16:32 ` [RFC] b4 dig: Add AI-powered email relationship discovery command Sasha Levin
2025-09-09 17:22 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-09 17:26 ` Jens Axboe
2025-09-09 18:54 ` Sasha Levin
2025-09-10 10:13 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-10 10:55 ` Sasha Levin
2025-09-10 11:29 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-10 13:38 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-09-10 14:03 ` Andrew Dona-Couch
2025-09-11 14:48 ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2025-09-11 15:05 ` Sasha Levin
2025-09-11 19:13 ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2025-09-11 19:57 ` Sasha Levin
2025-09-15 11:26 ` Mark Brown
2025-09-15 11:48 ` Sasha Levin
2025-09-15 12:03 ` Mark Brown
2025-09-11 23:24 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-09-07 22:04 ` [GIT PULL] io_uring fix for 6.17-rc5 Jonathan Corbet
2025-09-05 19:04 ` Jens Axboe
2025-09-05 19:07 ` Jens Axboe
2025-09-05 19:13 ` Caleb Sander Mateos
2025-09-05 19:16 ` Jens Axboe
2025-09-05 19:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-09-05 19:23 ` Jens Axboe
2025-09-05 19:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-09-05 19:30 ` Jens Axboe
2025-09-05 20:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-09-06 0:01 ` Jens Axboe
2025-09-07 18:47 ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-09-08 22:15 ` Alexei Starovoitov
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