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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Caleb Sander Mateos <csander@purestorage.com>,
	io-uring <io-uring@vger.kernel.org>,
	Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] io_uring fix for 6.17-rc5
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2025 13:23:55 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51f10765-1d74-48dd-8d5b-76178cf5dc66@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wi-jomx2=9jRbUz0F_AQ9vKs2uN42mPsEurYNQsUCJn-w@mail.gmail.com>

On 9/5/25 1:15 PM, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Sept 2025 at 12:04, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk> wrote:
>>
>> IMHO it's better to have a Link and it _potentially_ being useful than
>> not to have it and then need to search around for it.
> 
> No. Really.
> 
> The issue is "potentially - but very likely not - useful" vs "I HIT
> THIS TEN+ TIMES EVERY SINGLE F%^& RELEASE".
> 
> There is just no comparison.  I have literally *never* found the
> original submission email to be useful, and I'm tired of the
> "potentially useful" argument that has nothing to back it up with.
> 
> It's literally magical thinking of "in some alternate universe, pigs
> can fly, and that link might be useful"

Then let's please define the rules. I always add a bug report in as a
Link tag, if it exists. I think we agree that's a good thing, because it
shows the origin of the patch and what it's supposed to fix.

If someone sends me a patch which may be a bug or a feature, add the
link IFF discussion actually happened there. Useful discussion,
presumably? Because what typically ends up happening is that someone
sends a series, and there's discussion, and then V2 is posted. Repeat
until good. When Vn is applied, there's zero discussion. But a link to
Vn is useful in that it helps you find Vn-1 and so forth, as it leads to
the cover letter. We can put the cover letter link in there, but that's
not useful in an big series, as it'd be in all the patches. Create
temporary branch, apply series, merge into branch where it belongs and
include the Link to the cover letter? Or the cover letter itself?

And probably more?

-- 
Jens Axboe

  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-05 19:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-05 11:18 [GIT PULL] io_uring fix for 6.17-rc5 Jens Axboe
2025-09-05 17:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-09-05 17:45   ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-09-05 18:06     ` Linus Torvalds
2025-09-05 19:33       ` Link trailers revisited (was Re: [GIT PULL] io_uring fix for 6.17-rc5) Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-09-05 20:09         ` Linus Torvalds
2025-09-05 20:47         ` Sasha Levin
2025-09-06 11:27         ` Greg KH
2025-09-06 11:27           ` Greg KH
2025-09-06 11:30             ` Greg KH
2025-09-06 13:51           ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-09-06 15:31             ` Linus Torvalds
2025-09-06 18:50               ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-09-06 19:19                 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-09-08  9:11                   ` Jani Nikula
2025-09-08 11:59                 ` Mark Brown
2025-09-08 20:11         ` dan.j.williams
2025-09-09 11:29           ` Mark Brown
2025-09-09 13:17           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-09-09 14:18             ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-09-09 14:35               ` Jens Axboe
2025-09-09 14:42                 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-09-09 14:48                   ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-09 14:50                     ` Jens Axboe
2025-09-09 15:30                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-09-09 16:40                       ` Linus Torvalds
2025-09-09 17:08                         ` Mark Brown
2025-09-09 17:50                           ` Linus Torvalds
2025-09-09 17:58                             ` Linus Torvalds
2025-09-09 18:31                               ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-09-09 19:36                                 ` dan.j.williams
2025-09-10  1:12                                 ` dan.j.williams
2025-09-10 12:19                                   ` Mark Brown
2025-09-09 17:25                         ` dan.j.williams
2025-09-09 17:56                           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-09-09 18:01                             ` Linus Torvalds
2025-09-09 18:13                               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-09-09 18:06                         ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-09 18:14                           ` Linus Torvalds
2025-09-09 18:22                             ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-09 21:05                               ` Mark Brown
2025-09-10  1:33                                 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-09-09 14:44                 ` Greg KH
2025-09-09 15:14                 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-09-09 16:32         ` [RFC] b4 dig: Add AI-powered email relationship discovery command Sasha Levin
2025-09-09 17:22           ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-09 17:26             ` Jens Axboe
2025-09-09 18:54               ` Sasha Levin
2025-09-10 10:13                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-10 10:55                   ` Sasha Levin
2025-09-10 11:29                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-10 13:38             ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-09-10 14:03               ` Andrew Dona-Couch
2025-09-11 14:48           ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2025-09-11 15:05             ` Sasha Levin
2025-09-11 19:13               ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2025-09-11 19:57                 ` Sasha Levin
2025-09-15 11:26                   ` Mark Brown
2025-09-15 11:48                     ` Sasha Levin
2025-09-15 12:03                       ` Mark Brown
2025-09-11 23:24           ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-09-07 22:04     ` [GIT PULL] io_uring fix for 6.17-rc5 Jonathan Corbet
2025-09-05 19:04   ` Jens Axboe
2025-09-05 19:07     ` Jens Axboe
2025-09-05 19:13     ` Caleb Sander Mateos
2025-09-05 19:16       ` Jens Axboe
2025-09-05 19:15     ` Linus Torvalds
2025-09-05 19:23       ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2025-09-05 19:21     ` Linus Torvalds
2025-09-05 19:30       ` Jens Axboe
2025-09-05 20:54         ` Linus Torvalds
2025-09-06  0:01           ` Jens Axboe
2025-09-07 18:47             ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-09-08 22:15             ` Alexei Starovoitov

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