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From: Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
Cc: io-uring <io-uring@vger.kernel.org>, bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 5/5] selftests/io_uring: add a bpf io_uring selftest
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2026 22:35:21 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <591a7f0e-7b78-42f1-9486-163249f5e306@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAADnVQLSEoZ0V1m5j3ggX0o0gzVKyiDHL=J6F0wRXB8qk-MCGA@mail.gmail.com>

On 2/20/26 17:45, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 20, 2026 at 3:41 AM Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I had such examples, but selftests is not the best place for that.
>> It can use abstractions, and I want to make them reusable instead
>> of people copy-pasting from selftests.
> 
> Sure, but please still post them as extra patches so it's easier
> to see what's the end result.
> 
> Also please reply to that thread:
> https://lore.kernel.org/bpf/CALTww28QMg=YXqKWpWLZrLO+xiqOe3LGyput8dx68-dnQsxg=g@mail.gmail.com/
> 
> It's not clear to me whether your io_uring+bpf setup will work
> for Xiao's use case.
> I don't think we need 2 ways of doing it.

We discussed this with Ming on the list before, that's one of the use
cases I target as well, there is no reason why it shouldn't work. The
difference is that this approach gives a flexible framework for
extensibility and covers a good bunch of other needs, which is exactly
the reason I moved from a BPF opcode approach, while Ming's proposal is
more specific but argued to be a way easier to plug into ublk servers.
If you ask me, we need a solution that covers a broader spectrum of
use cases, but I guess it all can be argued in either way.

But it'd be interesting to discuss how a BPF abstraction around
registered buffers should look like. E.g. passing an index to
all kfuncs like that, or making it a KF_ACQUIRE/RELEASE object, or
maybe something else. I'll reply later.

-- 
Pavel Begunkov


      reply	other threads:[~2026-02-20 22:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-17 11:33 [PATCH v8 0/5] BPF controlled io_uring Pavel Begunkov
2026-02-17 11:33 ` [PATCH v8 1/5] io_uring: introduce callback driven main loop Pavel Begunkov
2026-02-17 11:33 ` [PATCH v8 2/5] io_uring/bpf-ops: implement loop_step with BPF struct_ops Pavel Begunkov
2026-02-17 11:33 ` [PATCH v8 3/5] io_uring/bpf-ops: add kfunc helpers Pavel Begunkov
2026-02-17 11:33 ` [PATCH v8 4/5] io_uring/bpf-ops: implement bpf ops registration Pavel Begunkov
2026-02-17 11:33 ` [PATCH v8 5/5] selftests/io_uring: add a bpf io_uring selftest Pavel Begunkov
2026-02-19 19:01   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-02-20 11:41     ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-02-20 17:45       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-02-20 22:35         ` Pavel Begunkov [this message]

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