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From: Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>
To: Mina Almasry <almasrymina@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v9 1/9] netmem: add niov->type attribute to distinguish different net_iov types
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2025 20:53:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5d2f86ce-e2bb-406a-8d53-58a464958d2d@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHS8izMFxDG5E07ZdqnDH_2D_g1fW8X0M7u3gGyV8efzxDNZbg@mail.gmail.com>

On 4/22/25 15:03, Mina Almasry wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 22, 2025 at 1:16 AM Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 4/18/25 00:15, Mina Almasry wrote:
>>> Later patches in the series adds TX net_iovs where there is no pp
>>> associated, so we can't rely on niov->pp->mp_ops to tell what is the
>>> type of the net_iov.
>>
>> That's fine, but that needs a NULL pp check in io_uring as well,
>> specifically in io_zcrx_recv_frag().
>>
> 
> I think you mean this update in the code:
> 
> if (!niov->pp || niov->pp->mp_ops != &io_uring_pp_zc_ops ||
>      io_pp_to_ifq(niov->pp) != ifq)
> return -EFAULT;
> 
> Yes, thanks, will do.

That will work. I'm assuming that those pp-less niovs can
end up in the rx path. I think it was deemed not impossible,
right?

>> You can also move it to struct net_iov_area and check niov->owner->type
>> instead. It's a safer choice than aliasing with struct page, there is
>> no cost as you're loading ->owner anyway (e.g. for
>> net_iov_virtual_addr()), and it's better in terms of normalisation /
>> not unnecessary duplicating it, assuming we'll never have niovs of
>> different types bound to the same struct net_iov_area.
>>
> 
> Putting it in niov->owner->type is an alternative approach. I don't
> see a strong reason to go with one over the other. I'm thinking there
> will be fast code paths that want to know the type of the frag or skb> and don't need the owner, so it will be good to save loading another
> cacheline. We have more space in struct net_iov than we know what to
> do with anyway.

That's fine. I wouldn't say it's about space, we can grow net_iov
private bits beyond the pp fields in sturct page, but it's rather
about the mess from the aliasing page. The fact that it's net_iov
makes it better, but I'd rather avoid any additional aliasing
altogether.

-- 
Pavel Begunkov


  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-22 19:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-17 23:15 [PATCH net-next v9 0/9] Device memory TCP TX Mina Almasry
2025-04-17 23:15 ` [PATCH net-next v9 1/9] netmem: add niov->type attribute to distinguish different net_iov types Mina Almasry
2025-04-22  8:17   ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-04-22 14:03     ` Mina Almasry
2025-04-22 19:53       ` Pavel Begunkov [this message]
2025-04-22 20:46         ` Mina Almasry
2025-04-17 23:15 ` [PATCH net-next v9 2/9] net: add get_netmem/put_netmem support Mina Almasry
2025-04-22  8:45   ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-04-22 13:56     ` Mina Almasry
2025-04-22 18:20       ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-04-22 18:30         ` Mina Almasry
2025-04-22 19:47           ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-04-22 20:04             ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-04-22 21:10               ` Mina Almasry
2025-04-23 10:49                 ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-04-17 23:15 ` [PATCH net-next v9 3/9] net: devmem: TCP tx netlink api Mina Almasry
2025-04-17 23:15 ` [PATCH net-next v9 4/9] net: devmem: Implement TX path Mina Almasry
2025-04-17 23:15 ` [PATCH net-next v9 5/9] net: add devmem TCP TX documentation Mina Almasry
2025-04-17 23:15 ` [PATCH net-next v9 6/9] net: enable driver support for netmem TX Mina Almasry
2025-04-17 23:15 ` [PATCH net-next v9 7/9] gve: add netmem TX support to GVE DQO-RDA mode Mina Almasry
2025-04-22 17:43   ` Harshitha Ramamurthy
2025-04-22 21:30     ` Mina Almasry
2025-04-22 23:00       ` Harshitha Ramamurthy
2025-04-17 23:15 ` [PATCH net-next v9 8/9] net: check for driver support in netmem TX Mina Almasry
2025-04-17 23:15 ` [PATCH net-next v9 9/9] selftests: ncdevmem: Implement devmem TCP TX Mina Almasry

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