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From: Pavel Begunkov <[email protected]>
To: Jens Axboe <[email protected]>, David Wei <[email protected]>,
	[email protected]
Subject: Re: [PATCH next v1 2/2] io_uring: limit local tw done
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2024 14:25:17 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>

On 11/21/24 01:12, Jens Axboe wrote:
> On 11/20/24 4:56 PM, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
>> On 11/20/24 22:14, David Wei wrote:
...
>> One thing that is not so nice is that now we have this handling and
>> checks in the hot path, and __io_run_local_work_loop() most likely
>> gets uninlined.
> 
> I don't think that really matters, it's pretty light. The main overhead
> in this function is not the call, it's reordering requests and touching
> cachelines of the requests.
> 
> I think it's pretty light as-is and actually looks pretty good. It's

It could be light, but the question is importance / frequency of
the new path. If it only happens rarely but affects a high 9,
then it'd more sense to optimise it from the common path.

> also similar to how sqpoll bites over longer task_work lines, and
> arguably a mistake that we allow huge depths of this when we can avoid
> it with deferred task_work.
> 
>> I wonder, can we just requeue it via task_work again? We can even
>> add a variant efficiently adding a list instead of a single entry,
>> i.e. local_task_work_add(head, tail, ...);
> 
> I think that can only work if we change work_llist to be a regular list
> with regular locking. Otherwise it's a bit of a mess with the list being

Dylan once measured the overhead of locks vs atomics in this
path for some artificial case, we can pull the numbers up.

> reordered, and then you're spending extra cycles on potentially
> reordering all the entries again.

That sucks, I agree, but then it's same question of how often
it happens.


-- 
Pavel Begunkov

  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-21 14:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-20 22:14 [PATCH next v1 0/2] limit local tw done David Wei
2024-11-20 22:14 ` [PATCH next v1 1/2] io_uring: add io_local_work_pending() David Wei
2024-11-20 23:45   ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-11-20 22:14 ` [PATCH next v1 2/2] io_uring: limit local tw done David Wei
2024-11-20 23:56   ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-11-21  0:52     ` David Wei
2024-11-21 14:29       ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-11-21 14:34         ` Jens Axboe
2024-11-21 14:58           ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-11-21 15:02             ` Jens Axboe
2024-11-21  1:12     ` Jens Axboe
2024-11-21 14:25       ` Pavel Begunkov [this message]
2024-11-21 14:31         ` Jens Axboe
2024-11-21 15:07           ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-11-21 15:15             ` Jens Axboe
2024-11-21 15:22               ` Jens Axboe
2024-11-21 16:00                 ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-11-21 16:05                   ` Jens Axboe
2024-11-21 16:18                 ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-11-21 16:20                   ` Jens Axboe
2024-11-21 16:43                     ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-11-21 16:57                       ` Jens Axboe
2024-11-21 17:05                         ` Jens Axboe
2024-11-21 17:53             ` David Wei
2024-11-21  1:12 ` [PATCH next v1 0/2] " Jens Axboe
2024-11-21 14:16 ` Jens Axboe

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