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From: Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	io-uring@vger.kernel.org, Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@linux.dev>,
	bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 5/5] io_uring/bpf: add basic kfunc helpers
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2025 21:34:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <639fe690-2a47-45fb-843e-31e91f6d2dd0@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAADnVQKu6Q1ePFuxxSLNsm-xggZbUEmWb_Y=4zeU54aAt5o6HA@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/13/25 20:51, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 13, 2025 at 9:11 AM Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com> wrote:
...>>
>> It's valid within a single run of the callback but shouldn't cross
>> into another invocation. Specifically, it's protected by the lock,
>> but that can be tuned. Does that match with what PTR_TO_MEM expects?
> 
> yes. PTR_TO_MEM lasts for duration of the prog.
> 
>> I can add refcounting for longer term pinning, maybe to store it
>> as a bpf map or whatever is the right way, but I'd rather avoid
>> anything expensive in the kfunc as that'll likely be called on
>> every program run.
> 
> yeah. let's not add any refcounting.
> 
> It sounds like you want something similar to
> __bpf_kfunc __u8 *
> hid_bpf_get_data(struct hid_bpf_ctx *ctx, unsigned int offset, const
> size_t rdwr_buf_size)
> 
> we have a special hack for it already in the verifier.
> The argument need to be called rdwr_buf_size,
> then it will be used to establish the range of PTR_TO_MEM.
> It has to be run-time constant.

Great, I can just use that

> What you're proposing with "__retsz" is a cleaner version of the same.
> But consider bpf_dynptr_from_io_uring(struct io_ring_ctx *ctx)
> it can create a dynamically sized region,
> and later use bpf_dynptr_slice_rdwr() to get writeable chunk of it.
> 
> I feel that __retsz approach may actually be a better fit at the end,
> if you're ok with constant arg.
I took a quick look, 16MB sounds a bit restrictive long term. I'll
just go for rdwr_buf_size while experimenting and hopefully will be
able to make a more educated choice later

-- 
Pavel Begunkov


  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-16 20:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-06 13:57 [RFC v2 0/5] BPF controlled io_uring Pavel Begunkov
2025-06-06 13:57 ` [RFC v2 1/5] io_uring: add struct for state controlling cqwait Pavel Begunkov
2025-06-06 13:57 ` [RFC v2 2/5] io_uring/bpf: add stubs for bpf struct_ops Pavel Begunkov
2025-06-06 14:25   ` Jens Axboe
2025-06-06 14:28     ` Jens Axboe
2025-06-06 13:58 ` [RFC v2 3/5] io_uring/bpf: implement struct_ops registration Pavel Begunkov
2025-06-06 14:57   ` Jens Axboe
2025-06-06 20:00     ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-06-06 21:07       ` Jens Axboe
2025-06-06 13:58 ` [RFC v2 4/5] io_uring/bpf: add handle events callback Pavel Begunkov
2025-06-12  2:28   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-06-12  9:33     ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-06-12 14:07     ` Jens Axboe
2025-06-06 13:58 ` [RFC v2 5/5] io_uring/bpf: add basic kfunc helpers Pavel Begunkov
2025-06-12  2:47   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-06-12 13:26     ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-06-12 14:06       ` Jens Axboe
2025-06-13  0:25       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-06-13 16:12         ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-06-13 19:51           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-06-16 20:34             ` Pavel Begunkov [this message]
2025-06-06 14:38 ` [RFC v2 0/5] BPF controlled io_uring Jens Axboe

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