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From: Pavel Begunkov <[email protected]>
To: Jens Axboe <[email protected]>, Dylan Yudaken <[email protected]>,
	"[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [PATCH for-next 5/7] io_uring: post msg_ring CQE in task context
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2022 03:59:34 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>

On 12/6/22 16:06, Jens Axboe wrote:
> On 12/6/22 3:42?AM, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
>> On 12/5/22 15:18, Jens Axboe wrote:
>>> On 12/5/22 8:12?AM, Dylan Yudaken wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 2022-12-05 at 04:53 -0700, Jens Axboe wrote:
>>>>> On 12/4/22 7:44?PM, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
>>>>>> We want to limit post_aux_cqe() to the task context when -
>>>>>>> task_complete
>>>>>> is set, and so we can't just deliver a IORING_OP_MSG_RING CQE to
>>>>>> another
>>>>>> thread. Instead of trying to invent a new delayed CQE posting
>>>>>> mechanism
>>>>>> push them into the overflow list.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is really the only one out of the series that I'm not a big fan
>>>>> of.
>>>>> If we always rely on overflow for msg_ring, then that basically
>>>>> removes
>>>>> it from being usable in a higher performance setting.
>>>>>
>>>>> The natural way to do this would be to post the cqe via task_work for
>>>>> the target, ring, but we also don't any storage available for that.
>>>>> Might still be better to alloc something ala
>>>>>
>>>>> struct tw_cqe_post {
>>>>> ????????struct task_work work;
>>>>> ????????s32 res;
>>>>> ????????u32 flags;
>>>>> ????????u64 user_data;
>>>>> }
>>>>>
>>>>> and post it with that?
>>
>> What does it change performance wise? I need to add a patch to
>> "try to flush before overflowing", but apart from that it's one
>> additional allocation in both cases but adds additional
>> raw / not-batch task_work.
> 
> It adds alloc+free for each one, and overflow flush needed on the
> recipient side. It also adds a cq lock/unlock, though I don't think that
> part will be a big deal.

And that approach below does 2 tw swings, neither is ideal but
it feels like a bearable price for poking into another ring.

I sent a series with the double tw approach, should be better for
CQ ordering, can you pick it up instead? I don't use io_uring tw
infra of a ring the request doesn't belong to as it seems to me
like shooting yourself in the leg.

-- 
Pavel Begunkov

  reply	other threads:[~2022-12-07  4:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-05  2:44 [PATCH for-next 0/7] CQ locking optimisation Pavel Begunkov
2022-12-05  2:44 ` [PATCH for-next 1/7] io_uring: skip overflow CQE posting for dying ring Pavel Begunkov
2022-12-05  2:44 ` [PATCH for-next 2/7] io_uring: don't check overflow flush failures Pavel Begunkov
2022-12-05  2:44 ` [PATCH for-next 3/7] io_uring: complete all requests in task context Pavel Begunkov
2022-12-05  2:44 ` [PATCH for-next 4/7] io_uring: force multishot CQEs into " Pavel Begunkov
2022-12-05  2:44 ` [PATCH for-next 5/7] io_uring: post msg_ring CQE in " Pavel Begunkov
2022-12-05 11:53   ` Jens Axboe
2022-12-05 15:12     ` Dylan Yudaken
2022-12-05 15:18       ` Jens Axboe
2022-12-06 10:42         ` Pavel Begunkov
2022-12-06 16:06           ` Jens Axboe
2022-12-07  3:59             ` Pavel Begunkov [this message]
2022-12-07 15:42               ` Jens Axboe
2022-12-05  2:44 ` [PATCH for-next 6/7] io_uring: use tw for putting rsrc Pavel Begunkov
2022-12-05  2:44 ` [PATCH for-next 7/7] io_uring: skip spinlocking for ->task_complete Pavel Begunkov
2022-12-06 16:53 ` [PATCH for-next 0/7] CQ locking optimisation Jens Axboe
2022-12-06 17:17 ` Jens Axboe

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