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From: Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>
To: David Wei <dw@davidwei.uk>,
	io-uring@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/3] io_uring/rsrc: rename and export io_lock_two_rings()
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2025 15:19:39 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <64101298-06d3-4db6-9156-42343dcbdfff@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <74cac804-27b5-4d25-9055-5e4b85be20d6@davidwei.uk>

On 10/28/25 14:54, David Wei wrote:
> On 2025-10-27 03:04, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
>> On 10/26/25 17:34, David Wei wrote:
>>> Rename lock_two_rings() to io_lock_two_rings() and export. This will be
>>> used when sharing a src ifq owned by one ring with another ring. During
>>> this process both rings need to be locked in a deterministic order,
>>> similar to the current user io_clone_buffers().
>>
>> unlock();
>> double_lock();
>>
>> It's quite a bad pattern just like any temporary unlocks in the
>> registration path, it gives a lot of space for exploitation.
>>
>> Ideally, it'd be
>>
>> lock(ctx1);
>> zcrx = grab_zcrx(ctx1, id); // with some refcounting inside
>> unlock(ctx1);
>>
>> lock(ctx2);
>> install(ctx2, zcrx);
>> unlock(ctx2);
> 
> Thanks, I've refactored this to lock rings in sequence instead of both
> rings.
> 
>>
>> And as discussed, we need to think about turning it into a temp
>> file, bc of sync, and it's also hard to send an io_uring fd.
>> Though, that'd need moving bits around to avoid refcounting
>> cycles.
>>
> 
> My next version of this adds a refcount to ifq and decouple its lifetime
> from ring ctx as a first step. Could we defer turning ifq into a file as
> a follow up?

The mentioned sync problems is about using a ring bound to another
task. Decoupling of the zcrx object from io_uring instance should
do here as well. Please send out the next version since it sounds
you already have it prepared and we'll take it from there.

-- 
Pavel Begunkov


  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-28 15:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-26 17:34 [PATCH v3 0/3] io_uring zcrx ifq sharing David Wei
2025-10-26 17:34 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] io_uring/rsrc: rename and export io_lock_two_rings() David Wei
2025-10-27 10:04   ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-10-28 14:54     ` David Wei
2025-10-28 15:19       ` Pavel Begunkov [this message]
2025-10-26 17:34 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] io_uring/zcrx: add refcount to struct io_zcrx_ifq David Wei
2025-10-26 17:34 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] io_uring/zcrx: share an ifq between rings David Wei
2025-10-27 10:20   ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-10-27 11:47     ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-10-27 15:10       ` David Wei
2025-10-28 14:55     ` David Wei
2025-10-28 15:22       ` Pavel Begunkov

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