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From: Willem de Bruijn <[email protected]>
To: Breno Leitao <[email protected]>,
	Willem de Bruijn <[email protected]>
Cc: Jens Axboe <[email protected]>, David Ahern <[email protected]>,
	Willem de Bruijn <[email protected]>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] add initial io_uring_cmd support for sockets
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2023 10:24:31 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZDdGl/[email protected]>

Breno Leitao wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 10:28:41AM -0400, Willem de Bruijn wrote:
> > Breno Leitao wrote:
> > > On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 09:28:29AM -0600, Jens Axboe wrote:
> > > > On 4/11/23 9:24?AM, Willem de Bruijn wrote:
> > > > > Jens Axboe wrote:
> > > > >> On 4/11/23 9:00?AM, Willem de Bruijn wrote:
> > > > >> But that doesn't work, because sock->ops->ioctl() assumes the arg is
> > > > >> memory in userspace. Or do you mean change all of the sock->ops->ioctl()
> > > > >> to pass in on-stack memory (or similar) and have it work with a kernel
> > > > >> address?
> > > > > 
> > > > > That was what I suggested indeed.
> > > > > 
> > > > > It's about as much code change as this patch series. But it avoids
> > > > > the code duplication.
> > > > 
> > > > Breno, want to tackle that as a prep patch first? Should make the
> > > > functional changes afterwards much more straightforward, and will allow
> > > > support for anything really.
> > > 
> > > Absolutely. I just want to make sure that I got the proper approach that
> > > we agreed here.
> > > 
> > > Let me explain what I understood taking TCP as an example:
> > > 
> > > 1) Rename tcp_ioctl() to something as _tcp_ioctl() where the 'arg'
> > > argument is now just a kernel memory (located in the stack frame from the
> > > callee).
> > > 
> > > 2) Recreate "tcp_ioctl()" that will basically allocate a 'arg' in the
> > > stack and call _tcp_ioctl() passing that 'arg' argument. At the bottom of
> > > this (tcp_ioctl() function) function, call `put_user(in_kernel_arg, userspace_arg)
> > > 
> > > 3) Repeat it for the 20 protocols that implement ioctl:
> > > 
> > > 	ag  "struct proto .* = {" -A 20 net/ | grep \.ioctl
> > > 	net/dccp/ipv6.c 	.ioctl	= dccp_ioctl,
> > > 	net/dccp/ipv4.c		.ioctl	= dccp_ioctl,
> > > 	net/ieee802154/socket.c .ioctl	= dgram_ioctl,
> > > 	net/ipv4/udplite.c	.ioctl	= udp_ioctl,
> > > 	net/ipv4/raw.c 		.ioctl	= raw_ioctl,
> > > 	net/ipv4/udp.c		.ioctl	= udp_ioctl,
> > > 	net/ipv4/tcp_ipv4.c 	.ioctl	= tcp_ioctl,
> > > 	net/ipv6/raw.c		.ioctl	= rawv6_ioctl,
> > > 	net/ipv6/tcp_ipv6.c	.ioctl	= tcp_ioctl,
> > > 	net/ipv6/udp.c	 	.ioctl	= udp_ioctl,
> > > 	net/ipv6/udplite.c	.ioctl	= udp_ioctl,
> > > 	net/l2tp/l2tp_ip6.c	.ioctl	= l2tp_ioctl,
> > > 	net/l2tp/l2tp_ip.c	.ioctl	= l2tp_ioctl,
> > > 	net/phonet/datagram.:	.ioctl	= pn_ioctl,
> > > 	net/phonet/pep.c	.ioctl	= pep_ioctl,
> > > 	net/rds/af_rds.c	.ioctl	=	rds_ioctl,
> > > 	net/sctp/socket.c	.ioctl  =	sctp_ioctl,
> > > 	net/sctp/socket.c	.ioctl	= sctp_ioctl,
> > > 	net/xdp/xsk.c		.ioctl	= sock_no_ioctl,
> > > 	net/mptcp/protocol.c	.ioctl	= mptcp_ioctl,
> > > 
> > > Am I missing something?
> > 
> > The suggestion is to convert all to take kernel memory and do the
> > put_cmsg in the caller of .ioctl. Rather than create a wrapper for
> > each individual instance and add a separate .iouring_cmd for each.
> > 
> > "change all of the sock->ops->ioctl() to pass in on-stack memory
> > (or similar) and have it work with a kernel address"
> 
> is it possible to do it for cases where we don't know what is the size
> of the buffer?
> 
> For instance the raw_ioctl()/rawv6_ioctl() case. The "arg" argument is
> used in different ways (one for input and one for output):
> 
>   1) If cmd == SIOCOUTQ or SIOCINQ, then the return value will be
>   returned to userspace:
>   	put_user(amount, (int __user *)arg)
> 
>   2) For default cmd, ipmr_ioctl() is called, which reads from the `arg`
>   parameter:
> 	copy_from_user(&vr, arg, sizeof(vr)
> 
> How to handle these contradictory behaviour ahead of time (at callee
> time, where the buffers will be prepared)?
> 
> Thank you!

Ah you found a counter-example to the simple pattern of put_user.

The answer perhaps depends on how many such counter-examples you
encounter in the list you gave. If this is the only one, exceptions
in the wrapper are reasonable. Not if there are many.

Is the intent for io_uring to support all cases eventually? The
current patch series only targeted more common fast path operations.

Probably also relevant is whether/how the approach can be extended
to [gs]etsockopt, as that was another example given, with the same
challenge.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-13 14:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-06 14:43 [PATCH 0/5] add initial io_uring_cmd support for sockets Breno Leitao
2023-04-06 14:43 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] net: wire up support for file_operations->uring_cmd() Breno Leitao
2023-04-06 14:43 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] net: add uring_cmd callback to UDP Breno Leitao
2023-04-11 12:54   ` Pavel Begunkov
2023-04-06 14:43 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] net: add uring_cmd callback to TCP Breno Leitao
2023-04-06 14:43 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] net: add uring_cmd callback to raw "protocol" Breno Leitao
2023-04-06 15:34 ` [PATCH 0/5] add initial io_uring_cmd support for sockets Willem de Bruijn
2023-04-06 15:59   ` Breno Leitao
2023-04-06 18:16     ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-04-07  2:46       ` David Ahern
2023-04-11 12:00         ` Breno Leitao
2023-04-11 14:36           ` David Ahern
2023-04-11 14:41             ` Jens Axboe
2023-04-11 14:51               ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-04-11 14:54                 ` Jens Axboe
2023-04-11 15:00                   ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-04-11 15:06                     ` Jens Axboe
2023-04-11 15:24                       ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-04-11 15:28                         ` Jens Axboe
2023-04-12 13:53                           ` Breno Leitao
2023-04-12 14:28                             ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-04-13  0:02                               ` Breno Leitao
2023-04-13 14:24                                 ` Willem de Bruijn [this message]
2023-04-13 14:45                                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-04-13 14:57                                   ` David Laight
2023-04-18 13:23                                   ` Breno Leitao
2023-04-18 19:41                                     ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-04-20 14:43                                       ` Breno Leitao
2023-04-20 16:48                                         ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-04-11 15:10               ` David Ahern
2023-04-11 15:17                 ` Jens Axboe
2023-04-11 15:27                   ` David Ahern
2023-04-11 15:29                     ` Jens Axboe
2023-04-12  7:39                     ` David Laight
2023-04-06 16:41 ` Keith Busch
2023-04-06 16:49   ` Jens Axboe
2023-04-06 16:58   ` Breno Leitao
2023-04-06 16:57 ` [PATCH RFC] io_uring: Pass whole sqe to commands Breno Leitao
2023-04-07 18:51   ` Keith Busch
2023-04-11 12:22     ` Breno Leitao
2023-04-11 12:39       ` Pavel Begunkov
2023-04-13  2:56   ` Ming Lei
2023-04-13 16:47     ` Breno Leitao
2023-04-14  2:12       ` Ming Lei
2023-04-14 13:12         ` Pavel Begunkov
2023-04-14 13:59           ` Ming Lei
2023-04-14 14:56             ` Pavel Begunkov
2023-04-16  9:51               ` Ming Lei
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2023-05-02  9:21 [PATCH 0/5] add initial io_uring_cmd support for sockets Adrien Delorme
2023-05-02 13:03 ` Pavel Begunkov
2023-05-03 13:11   ` Adrien Delorme
2023-05-03 13:27     ` David Laight

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