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From: Pavel Begunkov <[email protected]>
To: Caleb Sander Mateos <[email protected]>
Cc: Jens Axboe <[email protected]>, Ming Lei <[email protected]>,
	Keith Busch <[email protected]>, Christoph Hellwig <[email protected]>,
	Sagi Grimberg <[email protected]>,
	Xinyu Zhang <[email protected]>,
	[email protected], [email protected],
	[email protected]
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] io_uring/uring_cmd: import fixed buffer before going async
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2025 12:18:39 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADUfDZoELiri8Fuq3tHSsKf1XhPVaZ1eoCzfXK7g994VY4o9Vg@mail.gmail.com>

On 3/21/25 21:38, Caleb Sander Mateos wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 1:34 PM Pavel Begunkov <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> On 3/21/25 18:48, Caleb Sander Mateos wrote:
>>> For uring_cmd operations with fixed buffers, the fixed buffer lookup
>>> happens in io_uring_cmd_import_fixed(), called from the ->uring_cmd()
>>> implementation. A ->uring_cmd() implementation could return -EAGAIN on
>>> the initial issue for any reason before io_uring_cmd_import_fixed().
>>> For example, nvme_uring_cmd_io() calls nvme_alloc_user_request() first,
>>> which can return -EAGAIN if all tags in the tag set are in use.
>>
>> That's up to command when it resolves the buffer, you can just
>> move the call to io_import_reg_buf() earlier in nvme cmd code
>> and not working it around at the io_uring side.
>>
>> In general, it's a step back, it just got cleaned up from the
>> mess where node resolution and buffer imports were separate
>> steps and duplicate by every single request type that used it.
> 
> Yes, I considered just reordering the steps in nvme_uring_cmd_io().
> But it seems easy for a future change to accidentally introduce
> another point where the issue can go async before it has looked up the
> fixed buffer. And I am imagining there will be more uring_cmd fixed
> buffer users added (e.g. btrfs). This seems like a generic problem
> rather than something specific to NVMe passthru.

That's working around the api for ordering requests, that's the
reason you have an ordering problem.

> My other feeling is that the fixed buffer lookup is an io_uring-layer
> detail, whereas the use of the buffer is more a concern of the
> ->uring_cmd() implementation. If only the opcodes were consistent
> about how a fixed buffer is requested, we could do the lookup in the
> generic io_uring code like fixed files already do.

That's one of things I'd hope was done better, and not only
specifically for registered buffers, but it's late for that.

> But I'm open to implementing a different fix here if Jens would prefer.

It's not a fix, the behaviour is well within the constrained
of io_uring.

-- 
Pavel Begunkov


  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-22 12:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-21 18:48 [PATCH 0/3] Consistently look up fixed buffers before going async Caleb Sander Mateos
2025-03-21 18:48 ` [PATCH 1/3] io_uring/net: only import send_zc buffer once Caleb Sander Mateos
2025-03-21 20:38   ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-03-21 20:44     ` Caleb Sander Mateos
2025-03-21 18:48 ` [PATCH 2/3] io_uring/net: import send_zc fixed buffer before going async Caleb Sander Mateos
2025-03-21 18:48 ` [PATCH 3/3] io_uring/uring_cmd: import " Caleb Sander Mateos
2025-03-21 20:35   ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-03-21 21:38     ` Caleb Sander Mateos
2025-03-22 12:18       ` Pavel Begunkov [this message]
2025-03-21 19:53 ` [PATCH 0/3] Consistently look up fixed buffers " Jens Axboe
2025-03-21 20:24 ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-03-21 21:24   ` Caleb Sander Mateos
2025-03-22 12:33     ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-03-22  7:42   ` Ming Lei
2025-03-22  7:33 ` Ming Lei

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