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From: Pavel Begunkov <[email protected]>
To: Jens Axboe <[email protected]>, [email protected]
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] io_uring: limit inflight IO
Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2019 14:16:28 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>


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> I've been struggling a bit with how to make this reliable, and I'm not
> so sure there's a way to do that. Let's say an application sets up a
> ring with 8 sq entries, which would then default to 16 cq entries. With
> this patch, we'd allow 16 ios inflight. But what if the application does
> 
> for (i = 0; i < 32; i++) {
> 	sqe = get_sqe();
> 	prep_sqe();
> 	submit_sqe();
> }
> 
> And then directly proceeds to:
> 
> do {
> 	get_completions();
> } while (has_completions);
> 
> As long as fewer than 16 requests complete before we start reaping,
> we don't lose any events. Hence there's a risk of breaking existing
> setups with this, even though I don't think that's a high risk.
> 

I think, this should be considered as an erroneous usage of the API.
It's better to fail ASAP than to be surprised in a production
system, because of non-deterministic nature of such code. Even worse
with trying to debug such stuff. 

As for me, cases like below are too far-fetched

for (i = 0; i < n; i++)
	submit_read_sqe()
for (i = 0; i < n; i++) {
	device_allow_next_read()
	get_single_cqe()
}


> We probably want to add some sysctl limit for this instead. But then
> the question is, what should that entry (or entries) be?
> 

-- 
Pavel Begunkov


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  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-09 11:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-07 23:21 [PATCH RFC] io_uring: limit inflight IO Jens Axboe
2019-11-08  0:19 ` Jens Axboe
2019-11-08  9:56   ` Pavel Begunkov
2019-11-08 14:05     ` Jens Axboe
2019-11-08 17:45       ` Jens Axboe
2019-11-09 11:16         ` Pavel Begunkov [this message]
2019-11-09 14:23           ` Jens Axboe
2019-11-09 15:15             ` Jens Axboe
2019-11-09 19:24             ` Pavel Begunkov
2019-11-09 10:33       ` Pavel Begunkov
2019-11-09 14:12         ` Jens Axboe

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