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From: John Garry <[email protected]>
To: Hannes Reinecke <[email protected]>,
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	Himanshu Madhani <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 4/9] block: Add core atomic write support
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2024 14:29:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>

On 03/06/2024 13:31, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
>>
>> It seems ok in principle - we would just need to ensure that it is 
>> watertight.
>>
> 
> We currently use chunk_sectors for quite some different things, most 
> notably zones boundaries, NIOIB, raid stripes etc.
> So I don't have an issue adding another use-case for it.
> 
>>> Q2: If we don't, shouldn't we align the atomic write boundary to the 
>>> chunk_sectors setting to ensure both match up?
>>
>> Yeah, right. But we can only handle what HW tells.
>>
>> The atomic write boundary is only relevant to NVMe. NVMe NOIOB - which 
>> we use to set chunk_sectors - is an IO optimization hint, AFAIK. 
>> However the atomic write boundary is a hard limit. So if NOIOB is not 
>> aligned with the atomic write boundary - which seems unlikely - then 
>> the atomic write boundary takes priority.
>>
> Which is what I said; we need to check. And I would treat a NOIOB value 
> not aligned to the atomic write boundary as an error.

Yeah, maybe we can reject that in blk_validate_limits(), by error'ing or 
disabling atomic writes there.

> 
> But the real issue here is that the atomic write boundary only matters
> for requests, and not for the entire queue.
> So using chunk_sectors is out of question as this would affect all 
> requests, and my comment was actually wrong.
> I'll retract it.

I think that some of the logic could be re-used. 
rq_straddles_atomic_write_boundary() is checked in merging of reqs/bios 
(to see if the resultant req straddles a boundary).

So instead of saying: "will the resultant req straddle a boundary", 
re-using path like blk_rq_get_max_sectors() -> blk_chunk_sectors_left(), 
we check "is there space within the boundary limit to add this req/bio". 
We need to take care of front and back merges, though.

Thanks,
John



  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-03 13:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-02 14:09 [PATCH v7 0/9] block atomic writes John Garry
2024-06-02 14:09 ` [PATCH v7 1/9] block: Pass blk_queue_get_max_sectors() a request pointer John Garry
2024-06-02 14:09 ` [PATCH v7 2/9] fs: Initial atomic write support John Garry
2024-06-05  8:30   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-05 10:48     ` John Garry
2024-06-06  5:41       ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-06  6:38         ` John Garry
2024-06-02 14:09 ` [PATCH v7 3/9] fs: Add initial atomic write support info to statx John Garry
2024-06-02 14:09 ` [PATCH v7 4/9] block: Add core atomic write support John Garry
2024-06-03  9:26   ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-06-03 11:38     ` John Garry
2024-06-03 12:31       ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-06-03 13:29         ` John Garry [this message]
2024-06-05  8:32           ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-05 11:21             ` John Garry
2024-06-06  5:44               ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-05  8:31         ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-02 14:09 ` [PATCH v7 5/9] block: Add atomic write support for statx John Garry
2024-06-02 14:09 ` [PATCH v7 6/9] block: Add fops atomic write support John Garry
2024-06-02 14:09 ` [PATCH v7 7/9] scsi: sd: Atomic " John Garry
2024-06-02 14:09 ` [PATCH v7 8/9] scsi: scsi_debug: " John Garry
2024-06-02 14:09 ` [PATCH v7 9/9] nvme: " John Garry
2024-06-07  6:16 ` [PATCH v7 0/9] block atomic writes John Garry

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