From: "Carter Li 李通洲" <[email protected]>
To: Pavel Begunkov <[email protected]>
Cc: io-uring <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Specify a sqe won't generate a cqe
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2020 11:27:58 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
> 2020年2月14日 下午6:34,Pavel Begunkov <[email protected]> 写道:
>
> On 2/14/2020 11:29 AM, Carter Li 李通洲 wrote:
>> To implement io_uring_wait_cqe_timeout, we introduce a magic number
>> called `LIBURING_UDATA_TIMEOUT`. The problem is that not only we
>> must make sure that users should never set sqe->user_data to
>> LIBURING_UDATA_TIMEOUT, but also introduce extra complexity to
>> filter out TIMEOUT cqes.
>>
>> Former discussion: https://github.com/axboe/liburing/issues/53
>>
>> I’m suggesting introducing a new SQE flag called IOSQE_IGNORE_CQE
>> to solve this problem.
>>
>> For a sqe tagged with IOSQE_IGNORE_CQE flag, it won’t generate a cqe
>> on completion. So that IORING_OP_TIMEOUT can be filtered on kernel
>> side.
>>
>> In addition, `IOSQE_IGNORE_CQE` can be used to save cq size.
>>
>> For example `POLL_ADD(POLLIN)->READ/RECV` link chain, people usually
>> don’t care the result of `POLL_ADD` is ( since it will always be
>> POLLIN ), `IOSQE_IGNORE_CQE` can be set on `POLL_ADD` to save lots
>> of cq size.
>>
>> Besides POLL_ADD, people usually don’t care the result of POLL_REMOVE
>> /TIMEOUT_REMOVE/ASYNC_CANCEL/CLOSE. These operations can also be tagged
>> with IOSQE_IGNORE_CQE.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>
> I like the idea! And that's one of my TODOs for the eBPF plans.
> Let me list my use cases, so we can think how to extend it a bit.
>
> 1. In case of link fail, we need to reap all -ECANCELLED, analise it and
> resubmit the rest. It's quite inconvenient. We may want to have CQE only
> for not cancelled requests.
>
> 2. When chain succeeded, you in the most cases already know the result
> of all intermediate CQEs, but you still need to reap and match them.
> I'd prefer to have only 1 CQE per link, that is either for the first
> failed or for the last request in the chain.
>
> These 2 may shed much processing overhead from the userspace.
I couldn't agree more!
Another problem is that io_uring_enter will be awaked for completion of
every operation in a link, which results in unnecessary context switch.
When awaked, users have nothing to do but issue another io_uring_enter
syscall to wait for completion of the entire link chain.
>
> 3. If we generate requests by eBPF even the notion of per-request event
> may broke.
> - eBPF creating new requests would also need to specify user-data, and
> this may be problematic from the user perspective.
> - may want to not generate CQEs automatically, but let eBPF do it.
>
> --
> Pavel Begunkov
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-02-14 11:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-02-14 8:29 [FEATURE REQUEST] Specify a sqe won't generate a cqe Carter Li 李通洲
2020-02-14 10:34 ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-02-14 11:27 ` Carter Li 李通洲 [this message]
2020-02-14 12:52 ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-02-14 13:27 ` Carter Li 李通洲
2020-02-14 14:16 ` Pavel Begunkov
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
[email protected] \
[email protected] \
[email protected] \
[email protected] \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox