From: "Carter Li 李通洲" <[email protected]>
To: Jens Axboe <[email protected]>
Cc: Pavel Begunkov <[email protected]>,
io-uring <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [ISSUE] The time cost of IOSQE_IO_LINK
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2020 15:51:03 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
> 2020年2月13日 下午11:14,Jens Axboe <[email protected]> 写道:
>
> On 2/13/20 8:08 AM, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
>> On 2/13/2020 3:33 AM, Carter Li 李通洲 wrote:
>>> Thanks for your reply.
>>>
>>> You are right the nop isn't really a good test case. But I actually
>>> found this issue when benchmarking my echo server, which didn't use
>>> NOP of course.
>>
>> If there are no hidden subtle issues in io_uring, your benchmark or the
>> used pattern itself, it's probably because of overhead on async punting
>> (copying iovecs, several extra switches, refcounts, grabbing mm/fs/etc,
>> io-wq itself).
>>
>> I was going to tune async/punting stuff anyway, so I'll look into this.
>> And of course, there is always a good chance Jens have some bright insights
>
> The main issue here is that if you do the poll->recv, then it'll be
> an automatic punt of the recv to async context when the poll completes.
> That's regardless of whether or not we can complete the poll inline,
> we never attempt to recv inline from that completion. This is in contrast
> to doing a separate poll, getting the notification, then doing another
> sqe and io_uring_enter to perform the recv. For this case, we end up
> doing everything inline, just with the cost of an additional system call
> to submit the new recv.
>
> It'd be really cool if we could improve on this situation, as recv (or
> read) preceded by a poll is indeed a common use case. Or ditto for the
> write side.
>
>> BTW, what's benefit of doing poll(fd)->read(fd), but not directly read()?
>
> If there's no data to begin with, then the read will go async. Hence
> it'll be a switch to a worker thread. The above should avoid it, but
> it doesn't.
Yes. I actually tested `directly read()` first, and found it was about 30%
slower then poll(fd)->read(fd).
https://github.com/axboe/liburing/issues/69
So it turns out that async punting has high overhead. A (silly) question:
could we implement read/write operations that would block as poll->read/write?
>
> For carter's sake, it's worth nothing that the poll command is special
> and normal requests would be more efficient with links. We just need
> to work on making the poll linked with read/write perform much better.
Thanks
>
> --
> Jens Axboe
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Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-02-12 16:31 [ISSUE] The time cost of IOSQE_IO_LINK Carter Li 李通洲
2020-02-12 17:11 ` Jens Axboe
2020-02-12 17:22 ` Jens Axboe
2020-02-12 17:29 ` Jens Axboe
2020-02-13 0:33 ` Carter Li 李通洲
2020-02-13 15:08 ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-02-13 15:14 ` Jens Axboe
2020-02-13 15:51 ` Carter Li 李通洲 [this message]
2020-02-14 1:25 ` Carter Li 李通洲
2020-02-14 2:45 ` Jens Axboe
2020-02-14 5:03 ` Jens Axboe
2020-02-14 15:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-14 15:47 ` Jens Axboe
2020-02-14 16:18 ` Jens Axboe
2020-02-14 17:52 ` Jens Axboe
2020-02-14 20:44 ` Jens Axboe
2020-02-15 0:16 ` Carter Li 李通洲
2020-02-15 1:10 ` Jens Axboe
2020-02-15 1:25 ` Carter Li 李通洲
2020-02-15 1:27 ` Jens Axboe
2020-02-15 6:01 ` Jens Axboe
2020-02-15 6:32 ` Carter Li 李通洲
2020-02-15 15:11 ` Jens Axboe
2020-02-16 19:06 ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-02-16 22:23 ` Jens Axboe
2020-02-17 10:30 ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-02-17 19:30 ` Jens Axboe
2020-02-16 23:06 ` Jens Axboe
2020-02-16 23:07 ` Jens Axboe
2020-02-17 12:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-17 16:12 ` Jens Axboe
2020-02-17 17:16 ` Jens Axboe
2020-02-17 17:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-17 18:16 ` Jens Axboe
2020-02-18 13:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-18 14:27 ` [PATCH] asm-generic/atomic: Add try_cmpxchg() fallbacks Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-18 14:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-20 10:30 ` Will Deacon
2020-02-20 10:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-20 10:39 ` Will Deacon
2020-02-18 14:56 ` [ISSUE] The time cost of IOSQE_IO_LINK Oleg Nesterov
2020-02-18 15:07 ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-02-18 15:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-18 16:33 ` Jens Axboe
2020-02-18 15:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-18 15:50 ` [PATCH] task_work_run: don't take ->pi_lock unconditionally Oleg Nesterov
2020-02-20 16:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-20 17:22 ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-02-20 17:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-21 14:52 ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-02-24 18:47 ` Jens Axboe
2020-02-28 19:17 ` Jens Axboe
2020-02-28 19:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-28 19:28 ` Jens Axboe
2020-02-28 20:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-28 20:15 ` Jens Axboe
2020-02-18 16:46 ` [ISSUE] The time cost of IOSQE_IO_LINK Jens Axboe
2020-02-18 16:52 ` Jens Axboe
2020-02-18 13:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
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