From: Pavel Begunkov <[email protected]>
To: David Laight <[email protected]>,
'Arnd Bergmann' <[email protected]>,
Andy Lutomirski <[email protected]>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <[email protected]>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/9] kernel: add a PF_FORCE_COMPAT flag
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 19:31:49 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
On 21/09/2020 00:13, David Laight wrote:
> From: Arnd Bergmann
>> Sent: 20 September 2020 21:49
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 9:28 PM Andy Lutomirski <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 12:23 PM Matthew Wilcox <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 08:10:31PM +0100, Al Viro wrote:
>>>>> IMO it's much saner to mark those and refuse to touch them from io_uring...
>>>>
>>>> Simpler solution is to remove io_uring from the 32-bit syscall list.
>>>> If you're a 32-bit process, you don't get to use io_uring. Would
>>>> any real users actually care about that?
>>>
>>> We could go one step farther and declare that we're done adding *any*
>>> new compat syscalls :)
>>
>> Would you also stop adding system calls to native 32-bit systems then?
>>
>> On memory constrained systems (less than 2GB a.t.m.), there is still a
>> strong demand for running 32-bit user space, but all of the recent Arm
>> cores (after Cortex-A55) dropped the ability to run 32-bit kernels, so
>> that compat mode may eventually become the primary way to run
>> Linux on cheap embedded systems.
>>
>> I don't think there is any chance we can realistically take away io_uring
>> from the 32-bit ABI any more now.
>
> Can't it just run requests from 32bit apps in a kernel thread that has
> the 'in_compat_syscall' flag set?
> Not that i recall seeing the code where it saves the 'compat' nature
> of any requests.
>
> It is already completely f*cked if you try to pass the command ring
> to a child process - it uses the wrong 'mm'.
And how so? io_uring uses mm of a submitter. The exception is SQPOLL
mode, but it requires CAP_SYS_ADMIN or CAP_SYS_NICE anyway.
> I suspect there are some really horrid security holes in that area.
>
> David.
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-09-21 16:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-09-18 12:45 let import_iovec deal with compat_iovecs as well Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18 12:45 ` [PATCH 1/9] kernel: add a PF_FORCE_COMPAT flag Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18 13:40 ` Al Viro
2020-09-18 13:44 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18 13:58 ` Al Viro
2020-09-18 15:16 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-19 16:21 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-19 21:16 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-19 21:52 ` Finn Thain
2020-09-19 22:22 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-21 16:10 ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-09-21 16:13 ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-09-21 23:51 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-22 0:22 ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-09-22 0:58 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-22 6:30 ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-09-22 7:23 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-22 7:57 ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-09-22 9:01 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-22 16:20 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-23 8:01 ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-09-23 13:22 ` Al Viro
2020-09-19 22:09 ` Al Viro
2020-09-19 22:23 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-19 22:41 ` Al Viro
2020-09-19 22:53 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-19 23:24 ` Al Viro
2020-09-20 0:14 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-20 2:57 ` Al Viro
2020-09-20 16:59 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-20 18:12 ` Al Viro
2020-09-20 13:55 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-20 15:02 ` Al Viro
2020-09-19 14:53 ` David Laight
2020-09-18 13:59 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-20 15:15 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-20 15:55 ` William Kucharski
2020-09-21 16:20 ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-09-20 16:00 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-20 18:07 ` Al Viro
2020-09-20 18:41 ` Al Viro
2020-09-20 19:01 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-20 19:10 ` Al Viro
2020-09-20 19:22 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-20 19:28 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-20 20:49 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-20 21:13 ` David Laight
2020-09-21 16:31 ` Pavel Begunkov [this message]
2020-09-20 21:42 ` Al Viro
2020-09-21 16:26 ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-09-20 19:14 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-21 4:28 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18 12:45 ` [PATCH 2/9] compat.h: fix a spelling error in <linux/compat.h> Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18 13:37 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2020-09-18 12:45 ` [PATCH 3/9] fs: explicitly check for CHECK_IOVEC_ONLY in rw_copy_check_uvector Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18 12:56 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-18 13:39 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2020-09-18 12:45 ` [PATCH 4/9] fs: handle the compat case in import_iovec Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18 12:45 ` [PATCH 5/9] fs: remove various compat readv/writev helpers Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18 12:45 ` [PATCH 6/9] fs: remove the compat readv/writev syscalls Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18 12:45 ` [PATCH 7/9] fs: remove compat_sys_vmsplice Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18 12:45 ` [PATCH 8/9] mm: remove compat_process_vm_{readv,writev} Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18 13:48 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-18 12:45 ` [PATCH 9/9] security/keys: remove compat_keyctl_instantiate_key_iov Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-19 14:24 ` let import_iovec deal with compat_iovecs as well David Laight
2020-09-21 4:41 ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
2020-09-21 11:11 ` David Laight
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