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From: Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Joanne Koong <joannelkoong@gmail.com>
Cc: axboe@kernel.dk, io-uring@vger.kernel.org,
	csander@purestorage.com, krisman@suse.de, bernd@bsbernd.com,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 03/11] io_uring/kbuf: add support for kernel-managed buffer rings
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2026 10:52:29 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <809cd04b-007b-46c6-9418-161e757e0e80@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aY2mdLkqPM0KfPMC@infradead.org>

On 2/12/26 10:07, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 11, 2026 at 02:06:18PM -0800, Joanne Koong wrote:
>>> I don't think I follow. I'm saying that it might be interesting
>>> to separate rings from how and with what they're populated on the
>>> kernel API level, but the fuse kernel module can do the population
>>
>> Oh okay, from your first message I (and I think christoph too) thought
>> what you were saying is that the user should be responsible for
>> allocating the buffers with complete ownership over them, and then
>> just pass those allocated to the kernel to use. But what you're saying
>> is that just use a different way for getting the kernel to allocate
>> the buffers (eg through the IORING_REGISTER_MEM_REGION interface). Am
>> I reading this correctly?
> 
> I'm arguing exactly against this.  For my use case I need a setup
> where the kernel controls the allocation fully and guarantees user
> processes can only read the memory but never write to it.  I'd love
> to be able to piggy back than onto your work.

IORING_REGISTER_MEM_REGION supports both types of allocations. It can
have a new registration flag for read-only, and then you either make
the bounce avoidance optional or reject binding fuse to unsupported
setups during init. Any arguments against that? I need to go over
Joanne's reply, but I don't see any contradiction in principal with
your use case.

-- 
Pavel Begunkov


  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-12 10:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-10  0:28 [PATCH v1 00/11] io_uring: add kernel-managed buffer rings Joanne Koong
2026-02-10  0:28 ` [PATCH v1 01/11] io_uring/kbuf: refactor io_register_pbuf_ring() logic into generic helpers Joanne Koong
2026-02-10  0:28 ` [PATCH v1 02/11] io_uring/kbuf: rename io_unregister_pbuf_ring() to io_unregister_buf_ring() Joanne Koong
2026-02-10  0:28 ` [PATCH v1 03/11] io_uring/kbuf: add support for kernel-managed buffer rings Joanne Koong
2026-02-10 16:34   ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-02-10 19:39     ` Joanne Koong
2026-02-11 12:01       ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-02-11 22:06         ` Joanne Koong
2026-02-12 10:07           ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-02-12 10:52             ` Pavel Begunkov [this message]
2026-02-12 17:29               ` Joanne Koong
2026-02-13  7:27                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-02-13 15:31                   ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-02-13 15:48                     ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-02-13 19:09                     ` Joanne Koong
2026-02-13 19:30                       ` Bernd Schubert
2026-02-13 19:38                         ` Joanne Koong
2026-02-13 19:14                   ` Joanne Koong
2026-02-13 16:27                 ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-02-13  7:21               ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-02-13 13:18                 ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-02-13 15:26           ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-02-11 15:45     ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-02-12 10:44       ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-02-13  7:18         ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-02-13 12:41           ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-02-13 22:04             ` Joanne Koong
2026-02-10  0:28 ` [PATCH v1 04/11] io_uring/kbuf: add mmap " Joanne Koong
2026-02-10  1:02   ` Jens Axboe
2026-02-10  0:28 ` [PATCH v1 05/11] io_uring/kbuf: support kernel-managed buffer rings in buffer selection Joanne Koong
2026-02-10  0:28 ` [PATCH v1 06/11] io_uring/kbuf: add buffer ring pinning/unpinning Joanne Koong
2026-02-10  1:07   ` Jens Axboe
2026-02-10 17:57     ` Caleb Sander Mateos
2026-02-10 18:00       ` Jens Axboe
2026-02-10  0:28 ` [PATCH v1 07/11] io_uring/kbuf: add recycling for kernel managed buffer rings Joanne Koong
2026-02-10  0:52   ` Jens Axboe
2026-02-10  0:28 ` [PATCH v1 08/11] io_uring/kbuf: add io_uring_is_kmbuf_ring() Joanne Koong
2026-02-10  0:28 ` [PATCH v1 09/11] io_uring/kbuf: export io_ring_buffer_select() Joanne Koong
2026-02-10  0:28 ` [PATCH v1 10/11] io_uring/kbuf: return buffer id in buffer selection Joanne Koong
2026-02-10  0:53   ` Jens Axboe
2026-02-10 22:36     ` Joanne Koong
2026-02-10  0:28 ` [PATCH v1 11/11] io_uring/cmd: set selected buffer index in __io_uring_cmd_done() Joanne Koong
2026-02-10  0:55 ` [PATCH v1 00/11] io_uring: add kernel-managed buffer rings Jens Axboe
2026-02-10 22:45   ` Joanne Koong

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