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From: Jens Axboe <[email protected]>
To: Eric Dumazet <[email protected]>,
	[email protected], [email protected],
	[email protected]
Subject: Re: [PATCHSET 0/4] Add support for no-lock sockets
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2022 19:26:21 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>

On 4/12/22 6:40 PM, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> 
> On 4/12/22 13:26, Jens Axboe wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> If we accept a connection directly, eg without installing a file
>> descriptor for it, or if we use IORING_OP_SOCKET in direct mode, then
>> we have a socket for recv/send that we can fully serialize access to.
>>
>> With that in mind, we can feasibly skip locking on the socket for TCP
>> in that case. Some of the testing I've done has shown as much as 15%
>> of overhead in the lock_sock/release_sock part, with this change then
>> we see none.
>>
>> Comments welcome!
>>
> How BH handlers (including TCP timers) and io_uring are going to run
> safely ? Even if a tcp socket had one user, (private fd opened by a
> non multi-threaded program), we would still to use the spinlock.

But we don't even hold the spinlock over lock_sock() and release_sock(),
just the mutex. And we do check for running eg the backlog on release,
which I believe is done safely and similarly in other places too.

> Maybe I am missing something, but so far your patches make no sense to
> me.

It's probably more likely I'm missing something, since I don't know this
area nearly as well as you. But it'd be great if you could be specific.


-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-13  1:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-12 20:26 [PATCHSET 0/4] Add support for no-lock sockets Jens Axboe
2022-04-12 20:26 ` [PATCH 1/4] net: add sock 'sk_no_lock' member Jens Axboe
2022-04-12 20:26 ` [PATCH 2/4] net: allow sk_prot->release_cb() without sock lock held Jens Axboe
2022-04-12 20:26 ` [PATCH 3/4] net: add support for socket no-lock Jens Axboe
2022-04-12 20:26 ` [PATCH 4/4] io_uring: mark accept direct socket as no-lock Jens Axboe
2022-04-13  0:40 ` [PATCHSET 0/4] Add support for no-lock sockets Eric Dumazet
2022-04-13  1:26   ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2022-04-13  1:54     ` Eric Dumazet
2022-04-13  2:01       ` Jens Axboe
2022-04-13  2:05         ` Eric Dumazet
2022-04-13  2:12           ` Jens Axboe
2022-04-13  2:19             ` Eric Dumazet
2022-04-13  2:26               ` Eric Dumazet
2022-04-13  2:27               ` Jens Axboe
2022-04-13  2:32                 ` Eric Dumazet
2022-04-13  2:38                   ` Jens Axboe
2022-04-13  5:23         ` dust.li
2022-04-13  7:53           ` Paolo Abeni

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