From: Pavel Begunkov <[email protected]>
To: Jens Axboe <[email protected]>, [email protected]
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/2] 3 cacheline io_kiocb
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2020 23:14:23 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
On 25/07/2020 22:40, Jens Axboe wrote:
> On 7/25/20 12:24 PM, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
>> On 25/07/2020 18:45, Jens Axboe wrote:
>>> On 7/25/20 2:31 AM, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
>>>> That's not final for a several reasons, but good enough for discussion.
>>>> That brings io_kiocb down to 192B. I didn't try to benchmark it
>>>> properly, but quick nop test gave +5% throughput increase.
>>>> 7531 vs 7910 KIOPS with fio/t/io_uring
>>>>
>>>> The whole situation is obviously a bunch of tradeoffs. For instance,
>>>> instead of shrinking it, we can inline apoll to speed apoll path.
>>>>
>>>> [2/2] just for a reference, I'm thinking about other ways to shrink it.
>>>> e.g. ->link_list can be a single-linked list with linked tiemouts
>>>> storing a back-reference. This can turn out to be better, because
>>>> that would move ->fixed_file_refs to the 2nd cacheline, so we won't
>>>> ever touch 3rd cacheline in the submission path.
>>>> Any other ideas?
>>>
>>> Nothing noticeable for me, still about the same performance. But
>>> generally speaking, I don't necessarily think we need to go all in on
>>> making this as tiny as possible. It's much more important to chase the
>>> items where we only use 2 cachelines for the hot path, and then we have
>>> the extra space in there already for the semi hot paths like poll driven
>>> retry. Yes, we're still allocating from a pool that has slightly larger
>>> objects, but that doesn't really matter _that_ much. Avoiding an extra
>>> kmalloc+kfree for the semi hot paths are a bigger deal than making
>>> io_kiocb smaller and smaller.
>>>
>>> That said, for no-brainer changes, we absolutely should make it smaller.
>>> I just don't want to jump through convoluted hoops to get there.
>>
>> Agree, but that's not the end goal. The first point is to kill the union,
>> but it already has enough space for that.
>
> Right
>
>> The second is to see, whether we can use the space in a better way. From
>> the high level perspective ->apoll and ->work are alike and both serve to
>> provide asynchronous paths, hence the idea to swap them naturally comes to
>> mind.
>
> Totally agree, which is why the union of those kind of makes sense.
> We're definitely NOT using them at the same time, but the fact that we
> had various mm/creds/whatnot in the work_struct made that a bit iffy.
Thinking of it, if combined with work de-init as you proposed before, it's
probably possible to make a layout similar to the one below
struct io_kiocb {
...
struct hlist_node hash_node;
struct callback_head task_work;
union {
struct io_wq_work work;
struct async_poll apoll;
};
};
Saves ->apoll kmalloc(), and the actual work de-init would be negligibly
rare. Worth to try
>
>> TBH, I don't think it'd do much, because init of ->io would probably
>> hide any benefit.
>
> There should be no ->io init/alloc for this test case.
I mean, before getting into io_arm_poll_handler(), it should get -EAGAIN
in io_{read,write}() and initialise ->io in io_setup_async_rw(), at least
for READV, WRITEV.
--
Pavel Begunkov
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-07-25 20:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-07-25 8:31 [RFC 0/2] 3 cacheline io_kiocb Pavel Begunkov
2020-07-25 8:31 ` [PATCH 1/2] io_uring: allocate req->work dynamically Pavel Begunkov
2020-07-25 8:31 ` [PATCH 2/2] io_uring: unionise ->apoll and ->work Pavel Begunkov
2020-07-25 15:45 ` [RFC 0/2] 3 cacheline io_kiocb Jens Axboe
2020-07-25 18:24 ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-07-25 19:40 ` Jens Axboe
2020-07-25 20:14 ` Pavel Begunkov [this message]
2020-07-25 20:25 ` Jens Axboe
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