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From: Pavel Begunkov <[email protected]>
To: Jens Axboe <[email protected]>,
	Xiaoguang Wang <[email protected]>,
	[email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5.11 2/2] io_uring: don't take percpu_ref operations for registered files in IOPOLL mode
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 16:58:48 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>

On 17/11/2020 16:30, Jens Axboe wrote:
> On 11/17/20 3:43 AM, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
>> On 17/11/2020 06:17, Xiaoguang Wang wrote:
>>> In io_file_get() and io_put_file(), currently we use percpu_ref_get() and
>>> percpu_ref_put() for registered files, but it's hard to say they're very
>>> light-weight synchronization primitives. In one our x86 machine, I get below
>>> perf data(registered files enabled):
>>> Samples: 480K of event 'cycles', Event count (approx.): 298552867297
>>> Overhead  Comman  Shared Object     Symbol
>>>    0.45%  :53243  [kernel.vmlinux]  [k] io_file_get
>>
>> Do you have throughput/latency numbers? In my experience for polling for
>> such small overheads all CPU cycles you win earlier in the stack will be
>> just burned on polling, because it would still wait for the same fixed*
>> time for the next response by device. fixed* here means post-factum but
>> still mostly independent of how your host machine behaves. 
> 
> That's only true if you can max out the device with a single core.
> Freeing any cycles directly translate into a performance win otherwise,
> if your device isn't the bottleneck. For the high performance testing

Agree, that's what happens if a host can't keep up with a device, or e.g.
in case 2. of my other reply. Why don't you mention throwing many-cores
into a single many (poll) queue SSD?

> I've done, the actual polling isn't the bottleneck, it's the rest of the
> stack.
> 

-- 
Pavel Begunkov

  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-17 17:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-17  6:17 [PATCH 5.11 0/2] registered files improvements for IOPOLL mode Xiaoguang Wang
2020-11-17  6:17 ` [PATCH 5.11 1/2] io_uring: keep a pointer ref_node in io_kiocb Xiaoguang Wang
2020-11-17  6:17 ` [PATCH 5.11 2/2] io_uring: don't take percpu_ref operations for registered files in IOPOLL mode Xiaoguang Wang
2020-11-17 10:43   ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-11-17 16:21     ` Xiaoguang Wang
2020-11-17 16:42       ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-11-17 16:30     ` Jens Axboe
2020-11-17 16:58       ` Pavel Begunkov [this message]
2020-11-18  1:42         ` Jens Axboe
2020-11-18 13:59           ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-11-18 14:59             ` Jens Axboe
2020-11-18 15:36               ` Xiaoguang Wang
2020-11-18 15:52                 ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-11-18 15:57                   ` Jens Axboe

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