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From: Bernd Schubert <[email protected]>
To: Jens Axboe <[email protected]>, Miklos Szeredi <[email protected]>,
	Amir Goldstein <[email protected]>,
	"[email protected]" <[email protected]>,
	"[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2 19/19] fuse: {uring} Optimize async sends
Date: Fri, 31 May 2024 17:36:30 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>

On 5/31/24 18:24, Jens Axboe wrote:
> On 5/29/24 12:00 PM, Bernd Schubert wrote:
>> This is to avoid using async completion tasks
>> (i.e. context switches) when not needed.
>>
>> Cc: [email protected]
>> Signed-off-by: Bernd Schubert <[email protected]>
> 
> This patch is very confusing, even after having pulled the other
> changes. In general, would be great if the io_uring list was CC'ed on

Hmm, let me try to explain. And yes, I definitely need to add these details 
to the commit message

Without the patch:

<sending a struct fuse_req> 

fuse_uring_queue_fuse_req
    fuse_uring_send_to_ring
        io_uring_cmd_complete_in_task
        
<async task runs>
    io_uring_cmd_done()


Now I would like to call io_uring_cmd_done() directly without another task
whenever possible. I didn't benchmark it, but another task is in general
against the entire concept. That is where the patch comes in


fuse_uring_queue_fuse_req() now adds the information if io_uring_cmd_done() 
shall be called directly or via io_uring_cmd_complete_in_task().


Doing it directly requires the knowledge of issue_flags - these are the
conditions in fuse_uring_queue_fuse_req.


1) (current == queue->server_task)
fuse_uring_cmd (IORING_OP_URING_CMD) received a completion for a 
previous fuse_req, after completion it fetched the next fuse_req and 
wants to send it - for 'current == queue->server_task' issue flags
got stored in struct fuse_ring_queue::uring_cmd_issue_flags

2) 'else if (current->io_uring)'

(actually documented in the code)

2.1 This might be through IORING_OP_URING_CMD as well, but then server 
side uses multiple threads to access the same ring - not nice. We only
store issue_flags into the queue for 'current == queue->server_task', so
we do not know issue_flags - sending through task is needed.

2.2 This might be an application request through the mount point, through
the io-uring interface. We do know issue flags either.
(That one was actually a surprise for me, when xfstests caught it.
Initially I had a condition to send without the extra task then lockdep
caught that.


In both cases it has to use a tasks.


My question here is if 'current->io_uring' is reliable.


3) everything else

3.1) For async requests, interesting are cached reads and writes here. At a minimum
writes a holding a spin lock and that lock conflicts with the mutex io-uring is taking - 
we need a task as well

3.2) sync - no lock being hold, it can send without the extra task.


> the whole series, it's very hard to review just a single patch, when you
> don't have the full picture.

Sorry, I will do that for the next version.

> 
> Outside of that, would be super useful to include a blurb on how you set
> things up for testing, and how you run the testing. That would really
> help in terms of being able to run and test it, and also to propose
> changes that might make a big difference.
> 

Will do in the next version. 
You basically need my libfuse uring branch
(right now commit history is not cleaned up) and follow
instructions in <libfuse>/xfstests/README.md how to run xfstests.
Missing is a slight patch for that dir to set extra daemon parameters,
like direct-io (fuse' FOPEN_DIRECT_IO) and io-uring. Will add that libfuse
during the next days.


Thanks,
Bernd



  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-31 17:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-29 18:00 [PATCH RFC v2 00/19] fuse: fuse-over-io-uring Bernd Schubert
2024-05-29 18:00 ` [PATCH RFC v2 19/19] fuse: {uring} Optimize async sends Bernd Schubert
2024-05-31 16:24   ` Jens Axboe
2024-05-31 17:36     ` Bernd Schubert [this message]
2024-05-31 19:10       ` Jens Axboe
2024-06-01 16:37         ` Bernd Schubert
2024-05-30  7:07 ` [PATCH RFC v2 00/19] fuse: fuse-over-io-uring Amir Goldstein
2024-05-30 12:09   ` Bernd Schubert
2024-05-30 15:36 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-05-30 16:02   ` Bernd Schubert
2024-05-30 16:10     ` Kent Overstreet
2024-05-30 16:17       ` Bernd Schubert
2024-05-30 17:30         ` Kent Overstreet
2024-05-30 19:09         ` Josef Bacik
2024-05-30 20:05           ` Kent Overstreet
2024-05-31  3:53         ` [PATCH] fs: sys_ringbuffer() (WIP) Kent Overstreet
2024-05-31 13:11           ` kernel test robot
2024-05-31 15:49           ` kernel test robot
2024-05-30 16:21     ` [PATCH RFC v2 00/19] fuse: fuse-over-io-uring Jens Axboe
2024-05-30 16:32       ` Bernd Schubert
2024-05-30 17:26         ` Jens Axboe
2024-05-30 17:16       ` Kent Overstreet
2024-05-30 17:28         ` Jens Axboe
2024-05-30 17:58           ` Kent Overstreet
2024-05-30 18:48             ` Jens Axboe
2024-05-30 19:35               ` Kent Overstreet
2024-05-31  0:11                 ` Jens Axboe
2024-06-04 23:45       ` Ming Lei
2024-05-30 20:47 ` Josef Bacik
2024-06-11  8:20 ` Miklos Szeredi
2024-06-11 10:26   ` Bernd Schubert
2024-06-11 15:35     ` Miklos Szeredi
2024-06-11 17:37       ` Bernd Schubert
2024-06-11 23:35         ` Kent Overstreet
2024-06-12 13:53           ` Bernd Schubert
2024-06-12 14:19             ` Kent Overstreet
2024-06-12 15:40               ` Bernd Schubert
2024-06-12 15:55                 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-06-12 16:15                   ` Bernd Schubert
2024-06-12 16:24                     ` Kent Overstreet
2024-06-12 16:44                       ` Bernd Schubert
2024-06-12  7:39         ` Miklos Szeredi
2024-06-12 13:32           ` Bernd Schubert
2024-06-12 13:46             ` Bernd Schubert
2024-06-12 14:07             ` Miklos Szeredi
2024-06-12 14:56               ` Bernd Schubert
2024-08-02 23:03                 ` Bernd Schubert
2024-08-29 22:32                 ` Bernd Schubert
2024-08-30 13:12                   ` Jens Axboe
2024-08-30 13:28                     ` Bernd Schubert
2024-08-30 13:33                       ` Jens Axboe
2024-08-30 14:55                         ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-08-30 15:10                           ` Bernd Schubert
2024-08-30 20:08                           ` Jens Axboe
2024-08-31  0:02                             ` Bernd Schubert
2024-08-31  0:49                               ` Bernd Schubert

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