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From: Hannes Reinecke <[email protected]>
To: Kanchan Joshi <[email protected]>, [email protected]
Cc: [email protected], [email protected],
	[email protected], [email protected], [email protected],
	[email protected], [email protected]
Subject: Re: [LSF/MM/BPF ATTEND][LSF/MM/BPF Topic] Non-block IO
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2023 13:06:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>

On 2/10/23 19:00, Kanchan Joshi wrote:
> is getting more common than it used to be.
> NVMe is no longer tied to block storage. Command sets in NVMe 2.0 spec
> opened an excellent way to present non-block interfaces to the Host. ZNS
> and KV came along with it, and some new command sets are emerging.
> 
> OTOH, Kernel IO advances historically centered around the block IO path.
> Passthrough IO path existed, but it stayed far from all the advances, be
> it new features or performance.
> 
> Current state & discussion points:
> ---------------------------------
> Status-quo changed in the recent past with the new passthrough path (ng
> char interface + io_uring command). Feature parity does not exist, but
> performance parity does.
> Adoption draws asks. I propose a session covering a few voices and
> finding a path-forward for some ideas too.
> 
> 1. Command cancellation: while NVMe mandatorily supports the abort
> command, we do not have a way to trigger that from user-space. There
> are ways to go about it (with or without the uring-cancel interface) but
> not without certain tradeoffs. It will be good to discuss the choices in
> person.
> 
I would love to have this discussion; that's something which has been on 
my personal to-do list for a long time, and io_uring might finally be a 
solution to it.

Or, alternatively, looking at CDL for NVMe; that would be an alternative 
approach.
Maybe it's even worthwhile to schedule a separate meeting for it.

Cheers,

Hannes
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-02-11 12:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CGME20230210180226epcas5p1bd2e1150de067f8af61de2bbf571594d@epcas5p1.samsung.com>
2023-02-10 18:00 ` [LSF/MM/BPF ATTEND][LSF/MM/BPF Topic] Non-block IO Kanchan Joshi
2023-02-10 18:18   ` Bart Van Assche
2023-02-10 19:34     ` Kanchan Joshi
2023-02-13 20:24       ` Bart Van Assche
2023-02-10 19:47     ` Jens Axboe
2023-02-14 10:33     ` John Garry
2023-02-10 19:53   ` Jens Axboe
2023-02-13 11:54     ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-04-11 22:48     ` Kanchan Joshi
2023-04-11 22:53       ` Jens Axboe
2023-04-11 23:28         ` Kanchan Joshi
2023-04-12  2:12           ` Jens Axboe
2023-04-12  2:33       ` Ming Lei
2023-04-12 13:26         ` Kanchan Joshi
2023-04-12 13:47           ` Ming Lei
2023-02-10 20:07   ` Clay Mayers
2023-02-11  3:33   ` Ming Lei
2023-02-11 12:06   ` Hannes Reinecke [this message]
2023-02-28 16:05   ` John Meneghini

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