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* [PATCH] io_uring/sqpoll: Increase task_work submission batch size
@ 2025-04-03 19:56 Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
  2025-04-03 20:26 ` Jens Axboe
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Gabriel Krisman Bertazi @ 2025-04-03 19:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: axboe; +Cc: io-uring, Gabriel Krisman Bertazi

Our QA team reported a 10%-23% throughput reduction on an io_uring
sqpoll testcase that I traced back to a reduction of the device
submission queue depth when doing io over an sqpoll. After commit
af5d68f8892f ("io_uring/sqpoll: manage task_work privately"), we capped
the number of tw entries that can be executed from a single spin of
sqpoll to only 8 entries, before the sqpoll goes around to try to sleep.
My understanding is that this starves the device, as seen in device
utilization, mostly because it reduced the opportunity for plugging in the
block layer.

A simple usecase that showcases the issue is using sqpoll against a
nullblk:

fio --ioengine=io_uring --direct=1 --iodepth=128 --runtime=300 --bs=4k \
    --invalidate=1 --time_based  --ramp_time=10 --group_reporting=1 \
    --filename=/dev/nullb0 --name=RandomReads-direct-nullb-sqpoll-4k-1 \
    --rw=randread --numjobs=1 --sqthread_poll

One QA test machine yielded, with the above command:

SLE Kernel predating af5d68f8892f:
 READ: bw=9839MiB/s (10.3GB/s), 9839MiB/s-9839MiB/s (10.3GB/s-10.3GB/s), io=2883GiB (3095GB), run=300001-300001msec

SLE kernel after af5d68f8892f:
 READ: bw=8288MiB/s (8691MB/s), 8288MiB/s-8288MiB/s (8691MB/s-8691MB/s), io=2428GiB (2607GB), run=300001-300001msec

Ideally, the tw cap size would at least be the deep enough to fill the
device queue (assuming all uring commands are against only one device),
but we can't predict that behavior and thus can't guess the batch size.
We also don't want to let the tw run unbounded, though I'm not sure it
is really a problem.  Instead, let's just give it a more sensible value that
will allow for more efficient batching.

With this patch, my test machine (not the same as above) yielded a
consistent 10% throughput increase when doing randreads on nullb.  Our QE
team also reported it solved the regression on all machines they tested.

Fixes: af5d68f8892f ("io_uring/sqpoll: manage task_work privately")
Signed-off-by: Gabriel Krisman Bertazi <krisman@suse.de>
---
 io_uring/sqpoll.c | 2 +-
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/io_uring/sqpoll.c b/io_uring/sqpoll.c
index d037cc68e9d3..e58e4d2b3bde 100644
--- a/io_uring/sqpoll.c
+++ b/io_uring/sqpoll.c
@@ -20,7 +20,7 @@
 #include "sqpoll.h"
 
 #define IORING_SQPOLL_CAP_ENTRIES_VALUE 8
-#define IORING_TW_CAP_ENTRIES_VALUE	8
+#define IORING_TW_CAP_ENTRIES_VALUE	1024
 
 enum {
 	IO_SQ_THREAD_SHOULD_STOP = 0,
-- 
2.49.0


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* Re: [PATCH] io_uring/sqpoll: Increase task_work submission batch size
  2025-04-03 19:56 [PATCH] io_uring/sqpoll: Increase task_work submission batch size Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
@ 2025-04-03 20:26 ` Jens Axboe
  2025-04-04  1:18   ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Jens Axboe @ 2025-04-03 20:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Gabriel Krisman Bertazi; +Cc: io-uring

On 4/3/25 1:56 PM, Gabriel Krisman Bertazi wrote:
> diff --git a/io_uring/sqpoll.c b/io_uring/sqpoll.c
> index d037cc68e9d3..e58e4d2b3bde 100644
> --- a/io_uring/sqpoll.c
> +++ b/io_uring/sqpoll.c
> @@ -20,7 +20,7 @@
>  #include "sqpoll.h"
>  
>  #define IORING_SQPOLL_CAP_ENTRIES_VALUE 8
> -#define IORING_TW_CAP_ENTRIES_VALUE	8
> +#define IORING_TW_CAP_ENTRIES_VALUE	1024

That's a huge bump! This should not be a submission side thing, it's
purely running the task work. For this test case, I'm assuming you don't
see any io-wq activity, and hence everything is done purely inline from
the SQPOLL thread? This confuses me a bit, as this should not be driving
the queue depth at all, as submissions would be done by
__io_sq_thread(). And that part only caps when there is more than a
single ctx in there, which your case would not have. IOW, it should
submit everything that's there and hence this change should not change
the submission/queueing side of things. It only really deals with
running the task_work that will post the completion.

Maybe we should just not submit more until we've depleted the tw list?

In any case, we can _probably_ make this 32 or something without
worrying too much about it, though I would like to fully understand why
it's slower. Maybe it's the getrusage() that we do for every loop? You
could try and disable that just to see if it makes a difference?

-- 
Jens Axboe

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* Re: [PATCH] io_uring/sqpoll: Increase task_work submission batch size
  2025-04-03 20:26 ` Jens Axboe
@ 2025-04-04  1:18   ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
  2025-04-07 15:47     ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Gabriel Krisman Bertazi @ 2025-04-04  1:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jens Axboe; +Cc: io-uring

Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk> writes:

> On 4/3/25 1:56 PM, Gabriel Krisman Bertazi wrote:
>> diff --git a/io_uring/sqpoll.c b/io_uring/sqpoll.c
>>  #define IORING_SQPOLL_CAP_ENTRIES_VALUE 8
>> -#define IORING_TW_CAP_ENTRIES_VALUE	8
>> +#define IORING_TW_CAP_ENTRIES_VALUE	1024
>
> That's a huge bump! This should not be a submission side thing, it's
> purely running the task work. For this test case, I'm assuming you don't
> see any io-wq activity, and hence everything is done purely inline from
> the SQPOLL thread?
> This confuses me a bit, as this should not be driving
> the queue depth at all, as submissions would be done by
> __io_sq_thread().

Indeed, the submission happens fully inside __io_sq_thread, and I can
confirm that from the profile.  What is interesting is that, once I lift
the cap, we end up spending more time inside io_submit_sqes, which means
it is able to drive more requests.

Let me share the profile in case it rings a bell:

This is perf-record on a slow kernel:

   - 49.30% io_sq_thread
      - 41.86% io_submit_sqes
         - 20.57% io_issue_sqe
            - 19.89% io_read
               - __io_read
                  - 18.19% blkdev_read_iter
                     - 17.84% blkdev_direct_IO.part.21
                        + 7.25% submit_bio_noacct_nocheck
                        + 6.49% bio_iov_iter_get_pages
                        + 1.80% bio_alloc_bioset
                          1.27% bio_set_pages_dirty
                  + 0.78% security_file_permission
         - 10.88% blk_finish_plug
            - __blk_flush_plug
               - 10.80% blk_mq_flush_plug_list.part.88
                  + 10.69% null_queue_rqs
           0.83% io_prep_rw
      - 4.11% io_sq_tw
         - 3.62% io_handle_tw_list
            - 2.76% ctx_flush_and_put.isra.72
                 2.67% __io_submit_flush_completions
              0.58% io_req_rw_complete
      + 1.15% io_sq_update_worktime.isra.9
        1.05% mutex_unlock
      + 1.05% getrusage

After my patch:

   - 50.07% io_sq_thread
      - 47.22% io_submit_sqes
         - 38.04% io_issue_sqe
            - 37.19% io_read
               - 37.10% __io_read
                  - 34.79% blkdev_read_iter
                     - 34.34% blkdev_direct_IO.part.21
                        + 21.01% submit_bio_noacct_nocheck
                        + 8.30% bio_iov_iter_get_pages
                        + 2.21% bio_alloc_bioset
                        + 1.52% bio_set_pages_dirty
                  + 1.19% security_file_permission
         - 3.29% blk_finish_plug
            - __blk_flush_plug
               - 3.27% blk_mq_flush_plug_list.part.88
                  - 3.25% null_queue_rqs
                     + null_queue_rq
           1.16% io_prep_rw
      - 2.25% io_sq_tw
         - tctx_task_work_run
            - 2.00% io_handle_tw_list
               - 1.08% ctx_flush_and_put.isra.72
                    1.07% __io_submit_flush_completions
                 0.68% io_req_rw_complete

> And that part only caps when there is more than a
> single ctx in there, which your case would not have. IOW, it should
> submit everything that's there and hence this change should not change
> the submission/queueing side of things. It only really deals with
> running the task_work that will post the completion.
>
> Maybe we should just not submit more until we've depleted the tw list?
>
> In any case, we can _probably_ make this 32 or something without
> worrying too much about it, though I would like to fully understand why
> it's slower. Maybe it's the getrusage() that we do for every loop? You
> could try and disable that just to see if it makes a difference?

While the overhead of the usage accounting is very visible in the
profile, my first test when I got this bug was to drop that code, and it
had very little impact on throughput (around 1%).  The main difference
really seems to be around the number of ios we queue per iteration. In
fact, looking at iostat, I can see a very noticeable difference in
aqu-sz between both kernels.

A lower limit should work, yes, but I'm also quite curious how the tw
affects the submission. But also, what is the reason to cap it in the
first place?  io_handle_tw_list does a cond_reesched() on each
iteration, so it wont hog to the cpu and, if we drop the cap, we'll have
the behavior of not submitting more until the tw list is empty, as you
suggested.

-- 
Gabriel Krisman Bertazi

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* Re: [PATCH] io_uring/sqpoll: Increase task_work submission batch size
  2025-04-04  1:18   ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
@ 2025-04-07 15:47     ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Gabriel Krisman Bertazi @ 2025-04-07 15:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jens Axboe; +Cc: io-uring

Gabriel Krisman Bertazi <krisman@suse.de> writes:

> Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk> writes:
>
>> On 4/3/25 1:56 PM, Gabriel Krisman Bertazi wrote:
>>> diff --git a/io_uring/sqpoll.c b/io_uring/sqpoll.c
>>>  #define IORING_SQPOLL_CAP_ENTRIES_VALUE 8
>>> -#define IORING_TW_CAP_ENTRIES_VALUE	8
>>> +#define IORING_TW_CAP_ENTRIES_VALUE	1024
>>
>> That's a huge bump! This should not be a submission side thing, it's
>> purely running the task work. For this test case, I'm assuming you don't
>> see any io-wq activity, and hence everything is done purely inline from
>> the SQPOLL thread?
>> This confuses me a bit, as this should not be driving
>> the queue depth at all, as submissions would be done by
>> __io_sq_thread().
>
> Indeed, the submission happens fully inside __io_sq_thread, and I can
> confirm that from the profile.  What is interesting is that, once I lift
> the cap, we end up spending more time inside io_submit_sqes, which means
> it is able to drive more requests.

I think have more input on what's happening:

Regarding the tw batch not driving the submission.  This is a typical
submission with IORING_TW_CAP_ENTRIES_VALUE = 8

254,0    1    49927     0.016024812  5977  Q   R 2061024 + 8 [iou-sqp-5976]
254,0    1    49928     0.016025044  5977  G   R 2061024 + 8 [iou-sqp-5976]
254,0    1    49929     0.016025116  5977  P   N [iou-sqp-5976]
254,0    1    49930     0.016025594  5977  Q   R 1132240 + 8 [iou-sqp-5976]
254,0    1    49931     0.016025713  5977  G   R 1132240 + 8 [iou-sqp-5976]
254,0    1    49932     0.016026205  5977  Q   R 1187696 + 8 [iou-sqp-5976]
254,0    1    49933     0.016026317  5977  G   R 1187696 + 8 [iou-sqp-5976]
254,0    1    49934     0.016026811  5977  Q   R 1716272 + 8 [iou-sqp-5976]
254,0    1    49935     0.016026927  5977  G   R 1716272 + 8 [iou-sqp-5976]
254,0    1    49936     0.016027447  5977  Q   R 276336 + 8 [iou-sqp-5976]
254,0    1    49937     0.016027565  5977  G   R 276336 + 8 [iou-sqp-5976]
254,0    1    49938     0.016028005  5977  Q   R 1672040 + 8 [iou-sqp-5976]
254,0    1    49939     0.016028116  5977  G   R 1672040 + 8 [iou-sqp-5976]
254,0    1    49940     0.016028551  5977  Q   R 1770880 + 8 [iou-sqp-5976]
254,0    1    49941     0.016028685  5977  G   R 1770880 + 8 [iou-sqp-5976]
254,0    1    49942     0.016028795  5977  U   N [iou-sqp-5976] 7

We plug 7 requests, flush them all together.   with
IORING_TW_CAP_ENTRIES_VALUE=1024, submissions look generally like this:

254,0    1     4931     0.001414021  3145  P   N [iou-sqp-3144]
254,0    1     4932     0.001414415  3145  Q   R 1268736 + 8 [iou-sqp-3144]
254,0    1     4933     0.001414584  3145  G   R 1268736 + 8 [iou-sqp-3144]
254,0    1     4934     0.001414990  3145  Q   R 1210304 + 8 [iou-sqp-3144]
254,0    1     4935     0.001415145  3145  G   R 1210304 + 8 [iou-sqp-3144]
254,0    1     4936     0.001415553  3145  Q   R 1476352 + 8 [iou-sqp-3144]
254,0    1     4937     0.001415722  3145  G   R 1476352 + 8 [iou-sqp-3144]
254,0    1     4938     0.001416130  3145  Q   R 1291752 + 8 [iou-sqp-3144]
254,0    1     4939     0.001416302  3145  G   R 1291752 + 8 [iou-sqp-3144]
254,0    1     4940     0.001416763  3145  Q   R 1171664 + 8 [iou-sqp-3144]
254,0    1     4941     0.001416928  3145  G   R 1171664 + 8 [iou-sqp-3144]
254,0    1     4942     0.001417444  3145  Q   R 197424 + 8 [iou-sqp-3144]
254,0    1     4943     0.001417602  3145  G   R 197424 + 8 [iou-sqp-3144]
[...]
[...]
254,0    1     4993     0.001432191  3145  G   R 371656 + 8 [iou-sqp-3144]
254,0    1     4994     0.001432601  3145  Q   R 1864408 + 8 [iou-sqp-3144]
254,0    1     4995     0.001432771  3145  G   R 1864408 + 8 [iou-sqp-3144]
254,0    1     4996     0.001432872  3145  U   N [iou-sqp-3144] 32

So I'm able to drive way more I/O per plug with my patch.

If I plot the histogram of the to_submit argument of io_submit_sqes,
which is exactly io_sqring_entries(ctx), since I have only one ctx, I
see that I get much less io to submit in the ring in the first place.

So, because sqpoll is spinning more (and going to sleep more often), it
completes less I/Os, causing us to submit less from fio, as suggested by
the smaller io_sqring_entries?  Does it make any sense?

To retest, I fully dropped the accounting code and I can reproduce the
same submission pattern.  It really seems to depend on whether we go to
sleep after completing a small tw batch.

This is what I got from existing logs.  I'm a bit limited with testing at the
moment, as I lost the machine where I could reproduce it (my other machine
yields the same io pattern, but no numerical regression).  But I thought
it might be worth sharing in case I'm being silly and you can call me
out immediately.  I'll reproduce it in the next days, once I get more
time on the shared machine.

-- 
Gabriel Krisman Bertazi

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