From: Gabriel Krisman Bertazi <krisman@suse.de>
To: Joanne Koong <joannelkoong@gmail.com>
Cc: miklos@szeredi.hu, axboe@kernel.dk, bschubert@ddn.com,
asml.silence@gmail.com, io-uring@vger.kernel.org,
csander@purestorage.com, xiaobing.li@samsung.com,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 06/25] io_uring/kbuf: add buffer ring pinning/unpinning
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2025 12:54:47 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ikdnzwgo.fsf@mailhost.krisman.be> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJnrk1a_qDe22E5WYN+yxJ3SrPCLp=uFKYQ6NU2WPf-wCiZOtg@mail.gmail.com> (Joanne Koong's message of "Mon, 29 Dec 2025 17:27:19 -0800")
Joanne Koong <joannelkoong@gmail.com> writes:
> On Mon, Dec 29, 2025 at 1:07 PM Gabriel Krisman Bertazi <krisman@suse.de> wrote:
>
>>
>> Joanne Koong <joannelkoong@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> > +int io_kbuf_ring_pin(struct io_kiocb *req, unsigned buf_group,
>> > + unsigned issue_flags, struct io_buffer_list **bl)
>> > +{
>> > + struct io_buffer_list *buffer_list;
>> > + struct io_ring_ctx *ctx = req->ctx;
>> > + int ret = -EINVAL;
>> > +
>> > + io_ring_submit_lock(ctx, issue_flags);
>> > +
>> > + buffer_list = io_buffer_get_list(ctx, buf_group);
>> > + if (likely(buffer_list) && likely(buffer_list->flags & IOBL_BUF_RING)) {
>>
>> FWIW, the likely construct is unnecessary here. At least, it should
>> encompass the entire expression:
>>
>> if (likely(buffer_list && buffer_list->flags & IOBL_BUF_RING))
>>
>> But you can just drop it.
>
> I see, thanks. Could you explain when likelys/unlikelys should be used
> vs not? It's unclear to me when they need to be included vs can be
> dropped. I see some other io-uring code use likely() for similar-ish
> logic, but is the idea that it's unnecessary because the compiler
> already infers it?
likely/unlikely help the compiler decide whether it should reverse the
jump to optimize branch prediction and code spacial locality for icache.
The compiler is usually great in figuring it out by itself and, in
general, these should only be used after profilings shows the specific
jump is problematic, or when you know the jump will or will not be taken
almost every time. The compiler decision depends on heuristics (which I
guess considers the leg size and favors the if leg), but it usually gets
it right.
One obvious case where *unlikely* is useful is to handle error paths.
The logic behind it is that the error path is obviously not the
hot-path, so a branch misprediction or a cache miss in that path is
just fine.
The usage of likely is more rare, and some usages are just cargo-cult.
Here you could use it, as the hot path is definitely the if leg. But
if you look at the generated code, it most likely doesn't make any
difference, because gcc is smart enough to handle it.
A problem arises when likely/unlikely are used improperly, or the code
changes and the frequency when each leg is taken changes. Now the
likely/unlikely is introducing mispredictions the compiler could have
avoided and harming performance.
I wasn't gonna comment in the review, since the likely() seems harmless
in your patch. But what got my attention was that each separate
expression was under a single likely() expression. I don't think that
makes much sense, since the hint is useful for the placement of the
if/else legs, it should encompass the whole condition. That's how it is
used almost anywhere else in the kernel (there are a few occurrences
drivers/scsi/ that also look a bit fishy, IMO).
--
Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
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Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-12-23 0:34 [PATCH v3 00/25] fuse/io-uring: add kernel-managed buffer rings and zero-copy Joanne Koong
2025-12-23 0:34 ` [PATCH v3 01/25] io_uring/kbuf: refactor io_buf_pbuf_register() logic into generic helpers Joanne Koong
2025-12-23 0:34 ` [PATCH v3 02/25] io_uring/kbuf: rename io_unregister_pbuf_ring() to io_unregister_buf_ring() Joanne Koong
2025-12-23 0:35 ` [PATCH v3 03/25] io_uring/kbuf: add support for kernel-managed buffer rings Joanne Koong
2025-12-23 0:35 ` [PATCH v3 04/25] io_uring/kbuf: add mmap " Joanne Koong
2025-12-23 0:35 ` [PATCH v3 05/25] io_uring/kbuf: support kernel-managed buffer rings in buffer selection Joanne Koong
2026-01-03 22:45 ` Caleb Sander Mateos
2026-01-09 0:56 ` Joanne Koong
2025-12-23 0:35 ` [PATCH v3 06/25] io_uring/kbuf: add buffer ring pinning/unpinning Joanne Koong
2025-12-29 21:07 ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2025-12-30 1:27 ` Joanne Koong
2025-12-30 17:54 ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi [this message]
2026-01-02 17:57 ` Joanne Koong
2026-01-08 18:40 ` Caleb Sander Mateos
2026-01-08 19:18 ` Caleb Sander Mateos
2026-01-09 1:04 ` Joanne Koong
2025-12-23 0:35 ` [PATCH v3 07/25] io_uring/kbuf: add recycling for kernel managed buffer rings Joanne Koong
2025-12-29 22:00 ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2025-12-29 22:20 ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2025-12-30 1:15 ` Joanne Koong
2026-01-05 18:49 ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2026-01-08 20:37 ` Caleb Sander Mateos
2026-01-09 1:07 ` Joanne Koong
2025-12-23 0:35 ` [PATCH v3 08/25] io_uring: add io_uring_cmd_fixed_index_get() and io_uring_cmd_fixed_index_put() Joanne Koong
2026-01-08 19:02 ` Caleb Sander Mateos
2026-01-08 20:44 ` Caleb Sander Mateos
2026-01-09 0:55 ` Joanne Koong
2026-01-09 1:08 ` Caleb Sander Mateos
2025-12-23 0:35 ` [PATCH v3 09/25] io_uring/kbuf: add io_uring_cmd_is_kmbuf_ring() Joanne Koong
2025-12-23 0:35 ` [PATCH v3 10/25] io_uring/kbuf: export io_ring_buffer_select() Joanne Koong
2026-01-08 20:34 ` Caleb Sander Mateos
2026-01-09 0:38 ` Joanne Koong
2026-01-09 2:43 ` Caleb Sander Mateos
2025-12-23 0:35 ` [PATCH v3 11/25] io_uring/kbuf: return buffer id in buffer selection Joanne Koong
2025-12-23 0:35 ` [PATCH v3 12/25] io_uring/cmd: set selected buffer index in __io_uring_cmd_done() Joanne Koong
2025-12-23 0:35 ` [PATCH v3 13/25] fuse: refactor io-uring logic for getting next fuse request Joanne Koong
2025-12-23 0:35 ` [PATCH v3 14/25] fuse: refactor io-uring header copying to ring Joanne Koong
2026-01-11 16:03 ` Bernd Schubert
2026-01-16 22:33 ` Joanne Koong
2026-01-27 23:06 ` Bernd Schubert
2025-12-23 0:35 ` [PATCH v3 15/25] fuse: refactor io-uring header copying from ring Joanne Koong
2025-12-23 0:35 ` [PATCH v3 16/25] fuse: use enum types for header copying Joanne Koong
2025-12-23 0:35 ` [PATCH v3 17/25] fuse: refactor setting up copy state for payload copying Joanne Koong
2025-12-23 0:35 ` [PATCH v3 18/25] fuse: support buffer copying for kernel addresses Joanne Koong
2025-12-23 0:35 ` [PATCH v3 19/25] fuse: add io-uring kernel-managed buffer ring Joanne Koong
2025-12-23 0:35 ` [PATCH v3 20/25] io_uring/rsrc: rename io_buffer_register_bvec()/io_buffer_unregister_bvec() Joanne Koong
2026-01-08 20:52 ` Caleb Sander Mateos
2025-12-23 0:35 ` [PATCH v3 21/25] io_uring/rsrc: split io_buffer_register_request() logic Joanne Koong
2026-01-08 21:04 ` Caleb Sander Mateos
2026-01-09 0:18 ` Joanne Koong
2025-12-23 0:35 ` [PATCH v3 22/25] io_uring/rsrc: Allow buffer release callback to be optional Joanne Koong
2025-12-23 0:35 ` [PATCH v3 23/25] io_uring/rsrc: add io_buffer_register_bvec() Joanne Koong
2026-01-08 21:09 ` Caleb Sander Mateos
2026-01-09 0:10 ` Joanne Koong
2025-12-23 0:35 ` [PATCH v3 24/25] fuse: add zero-copy over io-uring Joanne Koong
2026-01-08 21:15 ` Caleb Sander Mateos
2026-01-09 0:07 ` Joanne Koong
2025-12-23 0:35 ` [PATCH v3 25/25] docs: fuse: add io-uring bufring and zero-copy documentation Joanne Koong
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