From: Xi Ruoyao <[email protected]>
To: Linus Torvalds <[email protected]>,
Christian Brauner <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected],
"Andreas K. Huettel" <[email protected]>,
Arnd Bergmann <[email protected]>,
Huacai Chen <[email protected]>,
Mateusz Guzik <[email protected]>,
Alexander Viro <[email protected]>, Jan Kara <[email protected]>,
[email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], Jens Axboe <[email protected]>,
[email protected]
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] vfs: support statx(..., NULL, AT_EMPTY_PATH, ...)
Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2024 00:54:45 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wi0ejJ=PCZfCmMKvsFmzvVzAYYt1K9vtwke4=arfHiAdg@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, 2024-07-03 at 09:31 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Jul 2024 at 01:46, Christian Brauner <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > We've now added AT_EMPTY_PATH support with NULL names because we
> > want to
> > allow that generically. But I clearly remember that this was
> > requested
> > to make statx() work with these sandboxes. So the kernel has done
> > its
> > part. Now it's for the sandbox to allow statx() with NULL paths and
> > AT_EMPTY_PATH but certainly not for the kernel to start reenabling
> > old
> > system calls.
>
> Those old system calls are still used.
>
> Just enable them.
>
> statx isn't the promised land. Existing applications matter. And there
> is absolutely nothing wrong with plain old 'stat' (well, we call it
> "newstat" in the kernel for historical reasons) on 64-bit
> architectures.
>
> Honestly, 'statx' is disgusting. I don't understand why anybody pushes
> that thing that nobody actually uses or cares about.
Hmm why it was added in the first place then? Why not just NAK it? If
someone tries to add a "seccomp sandbox" into my project I'll
immediately NAK it anyway :).
And should we add stat_time64, fstat_time64, and fstatat_time64 to stop
using statx on 32-bit platforms too as it's disgusting?
Also some bad news: Glibc has this:
#if (__WORDSIZE == 32 \
&& (!defined __SYSCALL_WORDSIZE || __SYSCALL_WORDSIZE == 32)) \
|| defined STAT_HAS_TIME32 \
|| (!defined __NR_newfstatat && !defined __NR_fstatat64)
# define FSTATAT_USE_STATX 1
#else
# define FSTATAT_USE_STATX 0
#endif
So if a LoongArch Glibc is built with Linux kernel headers >= 6.11,
it'll use fstatat **even configured --with-kernel=5.19** and fail to run
on Linux kernel <= 6.10. This will immediately blow up building Linux
From Scratch on a host distro with an "old" kernel.
<sarcasm>Alright, some Google project matters but Glibc does not matter
because it uses a disgusting syscall in the first place.</sarcasm>
We have to add some __ASSUME_blah_blah here now.
To make things worse Glibc 2.40 is being frozen today :(. Copying to
libc-alpha and the RM.
--
Xi Ruoyao <[email protected]>
School of Aerospace Science and Technology, Xidian University
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-07-03 16:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-06-25 11:00 [PATCH 0/2] statx NULL path support Mateusz Guzik
2024-06-25 11:00 ` [PATCH 1/2] vfs: add CLASS fd_raw Mateusz Guzik
2024-06-25 12:22 ` Xi Ruoyao
2024-06-25 13:13 ` Mateusz Guzik
2024-06-25 11:00 ` [PATCH 2/2] vfs: support statx(..., NULL, AT_EMPTY_PATH, ...) Mateusz Guzik
2024-06-25 13:24 ` Xi Ruoyao
2024-06-25 13:28 ` Xi Ruoyao
2024-06-25 13:28 ` Mateusz Guzik
2024-06-25 14:09 ` Huacai Chen
2024-06-25 14:58 ` Xi Ruoyao
2024-06-30 1:40 ` Huacai Chen
2024-06-30 2:39 ` Xi Ruoyao
2024-06-30 13:18 ` Huacai Chen
2024-07-01 11:59 ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-07-02 15:36 ` Huacai Chen
2024-07-02 17:06 ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-07-03 4:30 ` Huacai Chen
2024-07-03 8:45 ` Christian Brauner
2024-07-03 9:35 ` Huacai Chen
2024-07-03 10:07 ` Xi Ruoyao
2024-07-03 16:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-07-03 16:54 ` Xi Ruoyao [this message]
2024-07-03 17:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-07-03 17:30 ` Xi Ruoyao
2024-07-03 17:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-07-03 17:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-07-03 18:14 ` Christian Brauner
2024-07-03 18:39 ` Christian Brauner
2024-07-03 19:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-07-03 19:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-07-03 18:48 ` Xi Ruoyao
2024-07-03 19:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-07-03 19:33 ` Christian Brauner
2024-07-03 19:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-07-03 18:44 ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-07-03 19:55 ` Christian Brauner
2024-07-03 17:11 ` Xi Ruoyao
2024-07-04 2:38 ` Huacai Chen
2024-07-04 3:23 ` Xi Ruoyao
2024-07-04 4:14 ` Xi Ruoyao
2024-07-04 5:55 ` Florian Weimer
2024-07-04 6:02 ` Xi Ruoyao
2024-07-01 4:38 ` [PATCH 0/2] statx NULL path support Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-01 6:46 ` Xi Ruoyao
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