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From: Pavel Begunkov <[email protected]>
To: Jens Axboe <[email protected]>, [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] io_uring: prevent reg-wait speculations
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2024 00:13:51 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>

On 11/19/24 01:59, Jens Axboe wrote:
> On 11/18/24 6:43 PM, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
>> On 11/19/24 01:29, Jens Axboe wrote:
>>> On 11/18/24 6:29 PM, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
>>>> With *ENTER_EXT_ARG_REG instead of passing a user pointer with arguments
>>>> for the waiting loop the user can specify an offset into a pre-mapped
>>>> region of memory, in which case the
>>>> [offset, offset + sizeof(io_uring_reg_wait)) will be intepreted as the
>>>> argument.
>>>>
>>>> As we address a kernel array using a user given index, it'd be a subject
>>>> to speculation type of exploits.
>>>>
>>>> Fixes: d617b3147d54c ("io_uring: restore back registered wait arguments")
>>>> Fixes: aa00f67adc2c0 ("io_uring: add support for fixed wait regions")
>>>> Signed-off-by: Pavel Begunkov <[email protected]>
>>>> ---
>>>>    io_uring/io_uring.c | 1 +
>>>>    1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/io_uring/io_uring.c b/io_uring/io_uring.c
>>>> index da8fd460977b..3a3e4fca1545 100644
>>>> --- a/io_uring/io_uring.c
>>>> +++ b/io_uring/io_uring.c
>>>> @@ -3207,6 +3207,7 @@ static struct io_uring_reg_wait *io_get_ext_arg_reg(struct io_ring_ctx *ctx,
>>>>                 end > ctx->cq_wait_size))
>>>>            return ERR_PTR(-EFAULT);
>>>>    +    barrier_nospec();
>>>>        return ctx->cq_wait_arg + offset;
>>>
>>> We need something better than that, barrier_nospec() is a big slow
>>> hammer...
>>
>> Right, more of a discussion opener. I wonder if Jann can help here
>> (see the other reply). I don't like back and forth like that, but if
>> nothing works there is an option of returning back to reg-wait array
>> indexes. Trivial to change, but then we're committing to not expanding
>> the structure or complicating things if we do.
> 
> Then I think it should've been marked as a discussion point, because we
> definitely can't do this. Soliciting input is perfectly fine. And yeah,
> was thinking the same thing, if this is an issue then we just go back to
> indexing again. At least both the problem and solution is well known
> there. The original aa00f67adc2c0 just needed an array_index_nospec()
> and it would've been fine.
> 
> Not a huge deal in terms of timing, either way.
> 
> I suspect we can do something similar here, with just clamping the
> indexing offset. But let's hear what Jann thinks.

That what I hope for, but I can't say I entirely understand it. E.g.
why can_do_masked_user_access() exists and guards mask_user_address().

IIRC, with invalid argument the mask turns the index into 0. A complete
speculation from my side of how it works is that you then able to
"inspect" or what's the right word the value of array[0] but not a
address of memory of choice. Then in our case, considering that
mappings are page sized, array_index_nospec() would clamp it to either
first 32 bytes of the first page or to absolute addresses [0, 32)
in case size==0 and the mapping is NULL. But that could be just my
fantasy.

-- 
Pavel Begunkov

  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-21  0:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-19  1:29 [PATCH 1/1] io_uring: prevent reg-wait speculations Pavel Begunkov
2024-11-19  1:29 ` Jens Axboe
2024-11-19  1:43   ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-11-19  1:59     ` Jens Axboe
2024-11-21  0:13       ` Pavel Begunkov [this message]
2024-11-19  1:38 ` Pavel Begunkov

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