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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
To: Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>, io-uring@vger.kernel.org
Cc: bpf@vger.kernel.org, Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH io_uring-7.1 v5 0/5] BPF controlled io_uring
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2026 08:24:12 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <90c1f09e-9334-4036-a6be-ad7d2f91bfc7@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cover.1770818588.git.asml.silence@gmail.com>

On 2/11/26 7:32 AM, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
> This series introduces a way to override the standard io_uring_enter
> syscall execution with an extendible event loop, which can be controlled
> by BPF via new io_uring struct_ops or from within the kernel.
> 
> There are multiple use cases I want to cover with this:
> 
> - Syscall avoidance. Instead of returning to the userspace for
>   CQE processing, a part of the logic can be moved into BPF to
>   avoid excessive number of syscalls.
> 
> - Access to in-kernel io_uring resources. For example, there are
>   registered buffers that can't be directly accessed by the userspace,
>   however we can give BPF the ability to peek at them. It can be used
>   to take a look at in-buffer app level headers to decide what to do
>   with data next and issuing IO using it.
> 
> - Smarter request ordering and linking. Request links are pretty
>   limited and inflexible as they can't pass information from one
>   request to another. With BPF we can peek at CQEs and memory and
>   compile a subsequent request.
> 
> - Feature semi-deprecation. It can be used to simplify handling
>   of deprecated features by moving it into the callback out core
>   io_uring. For example, it should be trivial to simulate
>   IOSQE_IO_DRAIN. Another target could be request linking logic.
> 
> - It can serve as a base for custom algorithms and fine tuning.
>   Often, it'd be impractical to introduce a generic feature because
>   it's either niche or requires a lot of configuration. For example,
>   there is support min-wait, however BPF can help to further fine tune
>   it by doing it in multiple steps with different number of CQEs /
>   timeouts. Another feature people were asking about is allowing
>   to over queue SQEs but make the kernel to maintain a given QD.
> 
> - Smarter polling. Napi polling is performed only once per syscall
>   and then it switches to waiting. We can do smarter and intermix
>   polling with waiting using the hook.
> 
> It might need more specialised kfuncs in the future, but the core
> functionality is implemented with just two simple functions. One
> returns region memory, which gives BPF access to CQ/SQ/etc. And
> the second is for submitting requests. It's also given a structure
> as an argument, which is used to pass waiting parameters.
> 
> It showed good numbers in a test that sequentially executes N nop
> requests, where BPF was more than twice as fast than a 2-nop
> request link implementation.
> 
> I've got ideas on how the user space part while writing toy programs,
> mostly about simplifying life to BPF writers, but I want to turn it
> into something more cohesive before posting.

This looks nifty. Do you have a repo on the liburing side with some
examples to play with?

Nit on some of the new files added, not all of them have SPDX headers.

-- 
Jens Axboe

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-02-11 15:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-11 14:32 [PATCH io_uring-7.1 v5 0/5] BPF controlled io_uring Pavel Begunkov
2026-02-11 14:32 ` [PATCH v5 1/5] io_uring: introduce callback driven main loop Pavel Begunkov
2026-02-11 14:32 ` [PATCH v5 2/5] io_uring/bpf-ops: implement loop_step with BPF struct_ops Pavel Begunkov
2026-02-11 14:32 ` [PATCH v5 3/5] io_uring/bpf-ops: add kfunc helpers Pavel Begunkov
2026-02-11 14:32 ` [PATCH v5 4/5] io_uring/bpf-ops: implement bpf ops registration Pavel Begunkov
2026-02-11 15:21   ` Jens Axboe
2026-02-11 15:40     ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-02-11 14:32 ` [PATCH v5 5/5] selftests/io_uring: add a bpf io_uring selftest Pavel Begunkov
2026-02-11 15:22   ` Jens Axboe
2026-02-11 15:24 ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2026-02-11 18:58   ` [PATCH io_uring-7.1 v5 0/5] BPF controlled io_uring Pavel Begunkov

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