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From: Daniel Almeida <daniel.almeida@collabora.com>
To: Sidong Yang <sidong.yang@furiosa.ai>
Cc: Benno Lossin <lossin@kernel.org>,
	Caleb Sander Mateos <csander@purestorage.com>,
	Miguel Ojeda <ojeda@kernel.org>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	io-uring@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 2/4] rust: io_uring: introduce rust abstraction for io-uring cmd
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2025 09:43:56 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9A6E941F-3F40-40C5-A900-4C22B27D1982@collabora.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aJsxUpWXu6phEMLR@sidongui-MacBookPro.local>



> On 12 Aug 2025, at 09:19, Sidong Yang <sidong.yang@furiosa.ai> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Aug 12, 2025 at 10:34:56AM +0200, Benno Lossin wrote:
>> On Mon Aug 11, 2025 at 4:50 PM CEST, Sidong Yang wrote:
>>> On Mon, Aug 11, 2025 at 09:44:22AM -0300, Daniel Almeida wrote:
>>>>> There is `uring_cmd` callback in `file_operation` at c side. `Pin<&mut IoUringCmd>`
>>>>> would be create in the callback function. But the callback function could be
>>>>> called repeatedly with same `io_uring_cmd` instance as far as I know.
>>>>> 
>>>>> But in c side, there is initialization step `io_uring_cmd_prep()`.
>>>>> How about fill zero pdu in `io_uring_cmd_prep()`? And we could assign a byte
>>>>> as flag in pdu for checking initialized also we should provide 31 bytes except
>>>>> a byte for the flag.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> That was a follow-up question of mine. Can´t we enforce zero-initialization
>>>> in C to get rid of this MaybeUninit? Uninitialized data is just bad in general.
>>>> 
>>>> Hopefully this can be done as you've described above, but I don't want to over
>>>> extend my opinion on something I know nothing about.
>>> 
>>> I need to add a commit that initialize pdu in prep step in next version. 
>>> I'd like to get a comment from io_uring maintainer Jens. Thanks.
>>> 
>>> If we could initialize (filling zero) in prep step, How about casting issue?
>>> Driver still needs to cast array to its private struct in unsafe?
>> 
>> We still would have the casting issue.
>> 
>> Can't we do the following:
>> 
>> * Add a new associated type to `MiscDevice` called `IoUringPdu` that
>>  has to implement `Default` and have a size of at most 32 bytes.
>> * make `IoUringCmd` generic
>> * make `MiscDevice::uring_cmd` take `Pin<&mut IoUringCmd<Self::IoUringPdu>>`
>> * initialize the private data to be `IoUringPdu::default()` when we
>>  create the `IoUringCmd` object.
> 
> `uring_cmd` could be called multiple times. So we can't initialize
> in that time. I don't understand that how can we cast [u8; 32] to
> `IoUringPdu` safely. It seems that casting can't help to use unsafe.
> I think best way is that just return zerod `&mut [u8; 32]` and
> each driver implements safe serde logic for its private data. 
> 

Again, can’t we use FromBytes for this?



  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-12 12:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-27 15:03 [RFC PATCH v2 0/4] rust: miscdevice: abstraction for uring-cmd Sidong Yang
2025-07-27 15:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/4] rust: bindings: add io_uring headers in bindings_helper.h Sidong Yang
2025-07-27 15:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/4] rust: io_uring: introduce rust abstraction for io-uring cmd Sidong Yang
2025-08-01 13:48   ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-02 10:52     ` Benno Lossin
2025-08-06 12:38       ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-06 13:38         ` Benno Lossin
2025-08-08  6:56           ` Sidong Yang
2025-08-08  8:49             ` Benno Lossin
2025-08-08  9:43               ` Sidong Yang
2025-08-09 10:18                 ` Benno Lossin
2025-08-09 12:51                   ` Sidong Yang
2025-08-09 20:22                     ` Benno Lossin
2025-08-10 13:50                       ` Sidong Yang
2025-08-10 14:27                         ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-10 14:46                           ` Sidong Yang
2025-08-10 20:06                             ` Benno Lossin
2025-08-11 12:34                               ` Sidong Yang
2025-08-11 12:44                                 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-11 14:50                                   ` Sidong Yang
2025-08-12  8:34                                     ` Benno Lossin
2025-08-12 12:19                                       ` Sidong Yang
2025-08-12 12:43                                         ` Daniel Almeida [this message]
2025-08-12 13:56                                           ` Sidong Yang
2025-08-12 13:59                                             ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-12 14:38                                       ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-13  0:54                                         ` Sidong Yang
2025-08-08 13:55             ` Caleb Sander Mateos
2025-08-09 12:53               ` Sidong Yang
2025-08-05  3:39     ` Sidong Yang
2025-08-05 13:02       ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-06  9:11         ` Sidong Yang
2025-07-27 15:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/4] rust: miscdevice: add uring_cmd() for MiscDevice trait Sidong Yang
2025-08-01 14:04   ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-07  7:46     ` Sidong Yang
2025-07-27 15:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 4/4] samples: rust: rust_misc_device: add uring_cmd example Sidong Yang
2025-08-01 14:11   ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-07  6:30     ` Sidong Yang
2025-07-27 17:17 ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/4] rust: miscdevice: abstraction for uring-cmd Daniel Almeida
2025-08-01 14:13 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-07  6:17   ` Sidong Yang

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