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From: Hao Xu <[email protected]>
To: Avi Kivity <[email protected]>, [email protected]
Subject: Re: memory access op ideas
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2022 20:52:18 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>

Hi Avi,
在 4/13/22 6:33 PM, Avi Kivity 写道:
> Unfortunately, only ideas, no patches. But at least the first seems very 
> easy.
> 
> 
> - IORING_OP_MEMCPY_IMMEDIATE - copy some payload included in the op 
> itself (1-8 bytes) to a user memory location specified by the op.
> 
> 
> Linked to another op, this can generate an in-memory notification useful 
> for busy-waiters or the UMWAIT instruction
> 
> 
> This would be useful for Seastar, which looks at a timer-managed memory 
> location to check when to break computation loops.
> 
> 
> - IORING_OP_MEMCPY - asynchronously copy memory
> 
> 
> Some CPUs include a DMA engine, and io_uring is a perfect interface to 
> exercise it. It may be difficult to find space for two iovecs though.

I have a question about the 'DMA' here, do you mean DMA device for
memory copy? My understanding is you want async memcpy so that the
cpu can relax when the specific hardware is doing memory copy. the
thing is for cases like busy waiting or UMAIT, the length of the memory
to be copied is usually small(otherwise we don't use busy waiting or
UMAIT, right?). Then making it async by io_uring's iowq may introduce
much more overhead(the context switch).

Regards,
Hao

> 
> 
>


  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-22 12:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-13 10:33 memory access op ideas Avi Kivity
2022-04-22 12:52 ` Hao Xu [this message]
2022-04-22 13:24   ` Hao Xu
2022-04-22 13:38   ` Jens Axboe
2022-04-23  7:19     ` Hao Xu
2022-04-23 16:14   ` Avi Kivity
2022-04-22 14:50 ` Jens Axboe
2022-04-22 15:03   ` Jens Axboe
2022-04-23 16:30     ` Avi Kivity
2022-04-23 17:32       ` Jens Axboe
2022-04-23 18:02         ` Jens Axboe
2022-04-23 18:11           ` Jens Axboe
2022-04-22 20:03   ` Walker, Benjamin
2022-04-23 10:19     ` Pavel Begunkov
2022-04-23 13:20     ` Jens Axboe
2022-04-23 16:23   ` Avi Kivity
2022-04-23 17:30     ` Jens Axboe
2022-04-24 13:04       ` Avi Kivity
2022-04-24 13:30         ` Jens Axboe
2022-04-24 14:56           ` Avi Kivity
2022-04-25  0:45             ` Jens Axboe
2022-04-25 18:05               ` Walker, Benjamin

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