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From: Jason Wang <[email protected]>
To: Ferry Meng <[email protected]>
Cc: "Michael S . Tsirkin" <[email protected]>,
	[email protected],  Jens Axboe <[email protected]>,
	[email protected],  [email protected],
	[email protected],
	 Joseph Qi <[email protected]>,
	Jeffle Xu <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3][RFC] virtio-blk: add io_uring passthrough support for virtio-blk
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2024 10:08:21 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACGkMEu4=nt0R1pmTauuK_vcc_fbObmyWqe0TO0HhuexmZWHJQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>

On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 8:07 PM Ferry Meng <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> On 12/16/24 3:38 PM, Jason Wang wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 10:01 AM Ferry Meng <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 12/3/24 8:14 PM, Ferry Meng wrote:
> >>> We seek to develop a more flexible way to use virtio-blk and bypass the block
> >>> layer logic in order to accomplish certain performance optimizations. As a
> >>> result, we referred to the implementation of io_uring passthrough in NVMe
> >>> and implemented it in the virtio-blk driver. This patch series adds io_uring
> >>> passthrough support for virtio-blk devices, resulting in lower submit latency
> >>> and increased flexibility when utilizing virtio-blk.
> >>>
> >>> To test this patch series, I changed fio's code:
> >>> 1. Added virtio-blk support to engines/io_uring.c.
> >>> 2. Added virtio-blk support to the t/io_uring.c testing tool.
> >>> Link: https://github.com/jdmfr/fio
> >>>
> >>> Using t/io_uring-vblk, the performance of virtio-blk based on uring-cmd
> >>> scales better than block device access. (such as below, Virtio-Blk with QEMU,
> >>> 1-depth fio)
> >>> (passthru) read: IOPS=17.2k, BW=67.4MiB/s (70.6MB/s)
> >>> slat (nsec): min=2907, max=43592, avg=3981.87, stdev=595.10
> >>> clat (usec): min=38, max=285,avg=53.47, stdev= 8.28
> >>> lat (usec): min=44, max=288, avg=57.45, stdev= 8.28
> >>> (block) read: IOPS=15.3k, BW=59.8MiB/s (62.7MB/s)
> >>> slat (nsec): min=3408, max=35366, avg=5102.17, stdev=790.79
> >>> clat (usec): min=35, max=343, avg=59.63, stdev=10.26
> >>> lat (usec): min=43, max=349, avg=64.73, stdev=10.21
> >>>
> >>> Testing the virtio-blk device with fio using 'engines=io_uring_cmd'
> >>> and 'engines=io_uring' also demonstrates improvements in submit latency.
> >>> (passthru) taskset -c 0 t/io_uring-vblk -b4096 -d8 -c4 -s4 -p0 -F1 -B0 -O0 -n1 -u1 /dev/vdcc0
> >>> IOPS=189.80K, BW=741MiB/s, IOS/call=4/3
> >>> IOPS=187.68K, BW=733MiB/s, IOS/call=4/3
> >>> (block) taskset -c 0 t/io_uring-vblk -b4096 -d8 -c4 -s4 -p0 -F1 -B0 -O0 -n1 -u0 /dev/vdc
> >>> IOPS=101.51K, BW=396MiB/s, IOS/call=4/3
> >>> IOPS=100.01K, BW=390MiB/s, IOS/call=4/4
> >>>
> >>> The performance overhead of submitting IO can be decreased by 25% overall
> >>> with this patch series. The implementation primarily references 'nvme io_uring
> >>> passthrough', supporting io_uring_cmd through a separate character interface
> >>> (temporarily named /dev/vdXc0). Since this is an early version, many
> >>> details need to be taken into account and redesigned, like:
> >>> ● Currently, it only considers READ/WRITE scenarios, some more complex operations
> >>> not included like discard or zone ops.(Normal sqe64 is sufficient, in my opinion;
> >>> following upgrades, sqe128 and cqe32 might not be needed).
> >>> ● ......
> >>>
> >>> I would appreciate any useful recommendations.
> >>>
> >>> Ferry Meng (3):
> >>>     virtio-blk: add virtio-blk chardev support.
> >>>     virtio-blk: add uring_cmd support for I/O passthru on chardev.
> >>>     virtio-blk: add uring_cmd iopoll support.
> >>>
> >>>    drivers/block/virtio_blk.c      | 325 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
> >>>    include/uapi/linux/virtio_blk.h |  16 ++
> >>>    2 files changed, 336 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
> >> Hi, Micheal & Jason :
> >>
> >> What about yours' opinion? As virtio-blk maintainer. Looking forward to
> >> your reply.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> > If I understand this correctly, this proposal wants to make io_uring a
> > transport of the virito-blk command. So the application doesn't need
> > to worry about compatibility etc. This seems to be fine.
> >
> > But I wonder what's the security consideration, for example do we
> > allow all virtio-blk commands to be passthroughs and why.
>
> About 'security consideration', the generic char-dev belongs to root, so
> only root can use this passthrough path.

This seems like a restriction. A lot of applications want to be run
without privilege to be safe.

>
> On the other hand, to what I know, virtio-blk commands are all related
> to 'I/O operations', so we can support all those opcodes with bypassing
> vfs&block layer (if we want). I just realized the most  basic read/write
> in this RFC patch series, others will be considered later.
>
> > Thanks
> >
>

Thanks


  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-17  2:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-03 12:14 [PATCH 0/3][RFC] virtio-blk: add io_uring passthrough support for virtio-blk Ferry Meng
2024-12-03 12:14 ` [PATCH 1/3] virtio-blk: add virtio-blk chardev support Ferry Meng
2024-12-03 12:14 ` [PATCH 2/3] virtio-blk: add uring_cmd support for I/O passthru on chardev Ferry Meng
2024-12-04 15:19   ` kernel test robot
2024-12-03 12:14 ` [PATCH 3/3] virtio-blk: add uring_cmd iopoll support Ferry Meng
2024-12-04 21:47 ` [PATCH 0/3][RFC] virtio-blk: add io_uring passthrough support for virtio-blk Stefan Hajnoczi
2024-12-05  9:51   ` [Resend]Re: " Ferry Meng
2024-12-16  2:01 ` Ferry Meng
2024-12-16  7:38   ` Jason Wang
2024-12-16 12:07     ` Ferry Meng
2024-12-17  2:08       ` Jason Wang [this message]
2024-12-17  6:04         ` Ferry Meng
2024-12-16 15:54 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-16 16:13   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2024-12-17  2:12     ` Jason Wang
2024-12-17  6:08     ` Jingbo Xu
2024-12-17 17:54       ` Jens Axboe
2024-12-17 21:00         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2024-12-17 21:07           ` Jens Axboe
2024-12-18  3:35             ` Ferry Meng

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